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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SteelersFanIrl, Mar 15, 2021.

  1. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully

     
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  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    So Hilton gone then.
     
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  3. SteelerGlenn

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    Good signing.
     
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  4. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately I don’t think Mike Hilton will be back
     
  5. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    IDK some of these big money deals for average guys could show Hilton, Bud, JuJu, Conner and so on that they aren't going to score those mega millions this year
     
  6. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    Money isn’t there for the Steelers to bring those guys back even if their market is soft.

    The absolute worst thing that could happen is that they sign short below market deals in the hope of cashing in next off season. That would blow up the hope of a couple of third round comp picks that would normally be expected for losing blue chip players like Bud and Juju.
     
  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Disagree. GB is in cap hell, too and signed Aaron Jones. They could conceivably bring one of these guys back.
     
  8. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    I never care about comp picks because basically it ends up being that you have to suck for the season with lesser talent to maybe be awarded a couple of middle to late round picks that take place at the end of a round after 31 other teams picked and depending on your record whether or not you pick 33 or 39th. Sign the guys they need, chips will fall where ever and chalk this season up to th pandemic.
     
  9. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    Maybe one, on a heavily backloaded deal like we discussed yesterday. They still have to bring Alualu and Banner back, Sutton has already been signed, I think they need a TE, OLB and probably a WR in free agency. Even if they are all bargain basement signings it’ll add up.

    Green Bay has a more complete roster right now, they can fill most of their needs in the draft. I’m surprised they picked Jones over Lindsey. I would have kept Lindsey
     
  10. AskQuestionsLater

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    As I stated before in the Justin Layne thread, the signing of Cameron Sutton likely means the Steelers are finally getting past the doldrums of the unsuccessful period of drafting Corners; 2008-2017. Terrell Edmunds played his way into Top Ten Strong Safety discussion in 2020 and should continue to do so moving forward. Finally, too early to tell on Justin Layne the same.



    As in my signature though, if the team feels he is not the answer, Greg Newsome II can be.
     
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  11. AskQuestionsLater

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    Keep in mind that Elton Jenkins had experience at Center coming out of Mississippi State University in 2019. I would imagine he is the incumbent to replace Lindsey heading into 2021. You are correct in terms of how they can attack the draft though is the likely position switch of Jenkins means Guard is likely going to be at the top of their tree..... along with defense as well.



    Wyatt Davis would make a great fit.
     
  12. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    Great point, I had forgotten that about Jenkins. Makes sense
     
  13. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    Good signing. Sutton had a pretty solid season last year and has improved every season so far. As other have stated, Hilton is probably gone but I was expecting that anyways.
     
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  14. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Let some other team overpay for Hilton, I wanted Sutton signed before Hilton.
     
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  15. Jball

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  16. Maddog78

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    They also lost Corey Linsley.
     
  17. AskQuestionsLater

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    No worries!! :)


    It still does not detract from the fact that the Packers need to restructure Aaron Rodgers Contract as his current one does not help the team. I would imagine that the Packers are attempting to add voidable years on the restructured deal; Jordan Love being the biggest winner in the long term as are the Packers. How much longer will Aaron wait this out remains to be seen.
     
  18. AskQuestionsLater

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    Restructure A Rods Contract. That said, what is in the restructure itself?! I would imagine voidable years as Jordan Love is the likely incumbent to supplant Rodgers. Never mind that though as how low do the Packers think A Rod will go.
     
  19. LambertsDentist

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    I think I'd pick Hilton over Sutton by a narrow margin. My guess is the team negotiated with both guys with the intention of signing the one who cost the least, even if by "only" 100 thou.
     
  20. Thor

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    Theoretically, teams can pretty much sign anyone they want. If we assume every player is open to restructure/extension in duration and amount, and that any player is expendable and can be simply released and replaced on the cheap, then the dollars are going to be there.

    Where it gets complicated is balancing the team as a whole - the contracts/amounts commited to keep key players, coordinating the length and yearly amounts, evaluating if/who can be released, potential draft/FA additions, etc. On top of this, another team (or the player/agent) may end up considerably outbidding your initial estimate.

    That all said, I think JuJu feasible. But even that's contingent on the market. The Edge commands a higher AYS, and while the market and his recovery could potentially soften his contract, they would have to make some aggressive moves in order to absorb Bud's cost.
     
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  21. Blast Furnace

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    Yup, you were right, Buds gone now, maybe they get something down with JuJu. Only reason I think there’s any chance is because Ben has to want him back.
     
  22. Rel

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    Well Dupree just got 16 million per year from the Titans.
     
  23. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I like Sutton because he can play the slot CB, and outside CB.
     
  24. Thor

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    It's hard to tell what JuJu's market value is, but I'd guess he lands a contract with an average cost of around $12m/year. Fitzgerald signed a 1yr deal last offseason for $11m, and Robby Anderson signed for 2yrs/$20m. Fitz obviously has age working into his number, while Anderson hasn't been as productive.

    A couple of steps up, Davonte Adams and Stefan Diggs both sit around $14m as clear WR1s. I wouldn't put JuJu in their pay grade, but both signed their contracts 3+ years ago. So it's possible an aggressive team could've offered him closer to that had the cap not fallen this year.

    The Steelers could afford the $12m average over the contract's length, but they would need to figure out how to manipulate the structure so as to get this year's under $10m.
     
  25. CK 13

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    So glad they retained him, he has shown an upside and is one of ours! Its a miracle I tell you, its a miracle... and a solid deal for 2 more seasons!
     

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