We may not be done dealing?

With 1200 players getting cut Saturday, they should be able to find a player or two out of that multitude they want .....

 

I agree with those who say we need another safety or two... preferably a Strong Safety and a Free Safety. The secondary needs all the help it can get.

 

They did restructure Tomlin's deal he got a contract extension

 

I just read that the Broncos are poised to cut TJ Ward if they can't trade him...

 

So my post was really intended to be funny but apparently touched a spot deep within you that breeds intense man-love for coach cliche. Spoken like a true Mike Tomlin apologist. I prefer results over excuses. Even below average QBs carve up this secondary and look like pro bowlers. No excuses after this many years of the same problems in the D backfield.

 

All the more reason green font is accessible.



Are you indirectly implying you were unable to use said feature?



Furthermore, supporter or detractor of Tomlin's work is irrelevant. Your statement regarding his inability to construct and coach areas like the secondary is fallacy within the general consenus' opinion that I am calling into question.



If Tomlin was so terrible at constructing secondaries, why did his defense improve overall following the aftermath of the Dallas game?

 

I know my man. I know. You remember me having him too as our best choice.



Reason being we nabbed TJ though was because Jarvis Jones did not pan out. If Jarvis pans out, regarding this entire draft class minus Dobbs and Conner, it looks very different.

 

The only thing I'm implying, Dr Freud, is that this defensive secondary sucks. How is that a fallacy? Are you saying that they are great? Also that Tomlin, for all the stroking that you apologists give him, is not the defensive secondary mastermind that you wish he was. To dispute the fact that the DBs as a unit are pitiful, is myopic at best but mainly just moronic. If he was a 2nd or 3rd year coach, he would get more latitude, but after 10 years of the same old tired ineptitude in the secondary, he has been exposed as a defensive secondary fraud. You love him and apologize for his failure. Cool, good for you. I refuse to call that good coaching or talent managent.

 

Telling it like it is. Hip Hip Hooray. Calling a spade a spade and rightfully so.Thank you KVS. Somebody needs to put these people in their place.

 

Once again, if Tomlin is as bad as the both of you make him out to be when constructing areas such as the secondary, then why did Art Rooney II give him an extension?




Why extend someone who 'sucks'?


This is, again, a form of fallacy against Tomlin because we came up short last season.

 

Fallacy... LMAO. Not quite, but nice try. Frankly, your pompous drivel is annoying as f×ck and so are you. I don't expect you to get it because your vision is clouded by Mike Tomlin's ball sack.

 

In some peoples eyes, Tomlin can do no wrong. He does not suck, but he is not the sharpest tool in shed.

 

If Tomlin has been the main voice behind the actual players in the secondary and then obviously coaching them, then he deserves the lion's share of the blame. But I suspect he is not solely or even primarily the one who determines the roster. Certainly he has not proven to be a secondary guru, but at the same tie I am no comfortable saying he sucks at coaching them when what he has to work with has been of such poor quality overall.

tl;dr: Hard to bag on Tomlin too much when the players have mostly sucked.

 

Saturday and Sunday must be mayhem for GMs.

 

When you are the head coach, its all on you. Remember, Tomlin was DB coach in Tampa for 4 years and DC in Minnesota for a year. Tomlin was well known as a DB coach before getting hired as HC here. Plus, Tomlin hires his staff and has a say in personnel decisions and who is put on the field. Tomlin doesn't get off the hook for the secondary sucking canal water. He gets the ultimate blame.

 

Carnell Lake coaches the secondary

 

I can't remember hearing this name since he was in Cleveland but since he is being shopped slash ready to be cut, could TJ Ward be next? Just wanted to hear some thoughts.

 

Who hired Carnell Lake?

 

I didn't take him off the hook. I simply think he is less responsible if he is not the one deciding which players he gets to coach.

And if we are talking about Tomlin as the one who is ultimately responsible for this team, then keep in mind that he keeps the team competitive every single year. I'd like to know how many games the Steelers have played under Tomlin when they were already eliminated from contention. Unless we can get Belichick, I don't see an upgrade out there. So even if Tomlin is ultimately to blame for the less than stellar secondaries lately, as the one responsible for the final product he is second to only one, as the record shows. Barring Belichick, there isn't a clearly better coach out there. Tomlin is going to be here for a long time unless he decides to leave.

 

He has warts? He is a damn good coach.. I will take his record over most coaches with the exception of BB

 

I believe the big challenge of winning in the playoffs, is a lot to do with dealing with high pressure situations.
My perception of Tomlin, up to the recent, is that he has the brains to be a good football coach. But his time management fiascos showcases what I believe his failing has been- at times, he is not good under pressure, becomes uncertain ,and freezes under the spotlight. It certainly seems that in big sitautions, he 'lets the players play' and doesn't do his job in the moment.

I don't believe Tomlin is a fraud. I think he's just a lot closer to above average HC. I really like some of the ideas he has. But in pressure situations, I believe he often becomes paralyzed-not a good thing for a HC.

 

There has to be several Tomlin debate threads on this forum. Why does the "We may not be done dealing" thread have to devolve into another one?

 

He's an interesting name for sure. My perception of him has always been he's a "box" safety or a SS only kind of guy. If Sean Davis is a potential FS candidate this could work, but not if Davis is staying at SS for the foreseeable future.