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We are living off turnovers

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Joel Buchsbaum, Nov 5, 2025 at 6:09 AM.

  1. truckin9999

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    That's your opinion. The Steelers directly forced five of the six turnovers vs the Colts. W/L/T is the only opinion/stat that matters. I'll take an ugly undeserved win 7 days a week.
     
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  2. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    He’s being a smart ass. He forgot the green font.
     
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  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    What You just wrote should end this whole freaking thing.
    IMO.....Well done.
     
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  4. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Life is good

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    Good post

    None the less some people want to ***** and moan

    Some of them need to start new posts to get attention to their bitching and moaning
     
  5. hmmmmm

    hmmmmm Well-Known Member

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    I agree with your point although 99% of the responders do not understand. Another bad thing to consider is the Steelers have only won the time of possession battle once this year (Dillon Gabriel and the Browns). No one in the AFC looks unbeatable. However I still have a hard time seeing them winning the North. The Ravens are coming and they have a super soft schedule. The Steelers need an incredible amount of luck staying healthy. This team is super thin. I do think with how banged up the chargers OL is the Steelers should look great again similar to the Colts game.
     
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  6. feltdeez

    feltdeez Well-Known Member

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    its weird to want the team to win without turnovers. When we don’t have turnovers the first thing fans point out is how expensive this defense is compared to the rest of the league.

    I expect a bunch of forced turnovers EVERY WEEK.

    and the fact that we forced 2 of the better teams into 11 turnovers is a positive. Especially when 10 of the 11 turnovers were forced.
     
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  7. Steelvision

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    Were forcing most of these turnovers, thats nothing but good defensive play.
     
  8. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    Right. And I say without a game with lots of turnovers for us, ( + 2 to +6 ) we are not going to win many games vs. teams with winning records.

    Our offense is plain vanilla and our defense is highly suspect vs. the better qb's.
     
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  9. SGSteeler

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    You can call it whatever you want, but ball carrier fumbles are far more fluky. I don't agree with that at all. I get that defensive players swipe at the ball or try to put their shoulder pad on the ball when tackling to get fumbles... but they are dependent on the ball carrier's ability to hang onto it (usually due to carrying mechanics), or something else entirely (like the ball carrier extending his arms out at the wrong moment because he got hit low at the exact right time, etc.).

    We went and pick-pocketed Danny Jones... earned that money though skill. Rhamondre Stevenson just walked up and gave us a $20 bill. Did we earn that $20 with our dashing good looks? Or did we just have someone hand us a free $20 just because....
     
  10. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I mentioned the interception and the strip sack as "earned" turnovers. Those are definitely created by the defense like 99% of the time. I had only mentioned the ball carrier fumbles because they are so fluky. They don't happen often (even to guys that fumble a lot), and there's a worse than 50/50 chance that the defense recovers the fumble. We got pretty lucky on the fumble rate AND the recovery rate. I don't really care about ball carrier "strips" or "punches" because defensive players rip and punch at the ball all the time... regardless of the ball carrier. It happens every single game. They just know that Stevenson fumbles more than average, so there's a better chance it works.

    Stevenson fumbles about once every 56 touches (which is 61% more than NFL average). So yeah, he's more likely to fumble... but we don't only rip at Rhamondre. We do it to everyone. He just is more likely than others to put it on the ground (and twice in the same game is a lot, no matter how much you fumble).
     
  11. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    So you were in Spinal Tap;)
     
  12. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    This makes less sense as the day passes.
     
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