Various online mocks (keep them all here)

here is one i could live with.
rd 1 manti teo lb notre dame
rd2 tavon austin wr west vir
rd3 baccari rambo s georgia
rd4 david bakhtairr ot colorado
rd5 kwame geathers dt georgia
rd6 perry jones rb virginia
rd7 sean renfree qb duke

i like it cause of rambo and renfree. i think renfree could be an undrafted free agent but might lose out on him if that happens. this one was not updated yet. austin had a big day at combine so he may not be there

 

Walts latest

1. J Jones OLB
2. Larry Warford G KY
3. Q Patton WR
4. A. Ellington RB
5. S Williams S - GA

Never heard of the OG...did he impress at the combine or something? While it does address most of the positions of need. I think there were better players available in place of some of the picks he made.

EDIT: He added the 5th round.

 

I typically am okay with checking out guys with a checkered history, but I want no part of Ogletree. He's had 3 strikes, one of which being when all eyes are on him just before the combine. I heard one scout that's been around him say he's an "immature idiot" no thanks.

 

That's a good point. It's a shame because Warford would be a steal at that spot.

However if the draft shakes out like he has it I'd be very very happy with Justin Hunter in round 2. I'd be okay with Terrance Williams, John Jenkins, or Eric Reid there too...

Then we could go Rambo in the 3rd, and I'm a happy camper.

 

I'm torn on J.Jones. I think he's one of the most talented guys in this draft but it sounds like he's had a mixed bag of reviews on his medical checkout.

I wonder what our medical staff has said.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Jones drop to round 2.

 

i just think we get overly enamoured with these guys in shorts. as colbert said, we want guys that get to the qb, not guys that get close. i also don't see OLB as our biggest need either. worilds will get his shot if JH goes.

wr is a need with wallace gone, but if they sign breaston, that need drops alot.

ilb is weak in this class, and if they sign foote back, this position drops off from the top this year too. we also have rolle in here to work with. he does have starting expierience.

TE, we will need one added, but with johnson able to help out and paulson getting some time last year and pianalto being brought in, i don't think rd. 1 is the rd. we see one.

safety is up in the air. we don't know how long troy will last. we have two lesser options behind him. cromartie-smith or golden. neither have any starts among them.

RB is also a position we need to reload. i still don't think we keep both redman and dwyer. they already know they are not up to the quality we want as feature runners. the cupboard is bare behind them too.

qb, we need depth.

OL we need depth.

DL, we have starters and depth.

i'd have to say RB,ILB,S are the biggest needs first and foremost.

sure one of these OLB's would be nice to get but i see them as more of a luxuary pick then a need. we have starters and we have backups in place.

the trouble is that at the positions we need worse, the top guys are not really worthy of a first round selection.

that being the case, i'm thinking a tweener type. CB/FS like rhodes. a two for one guy. or an OLB/ILB type guy that could play both spots if needed.again a two for one type guy. at RB it's pretty cut and dry without a true 1st rounder.

 

"Tweener" guys as you put it are nice further down the draft for depth purposes, but in the 1st few rounds I want guys that are good enough that they have a set position... Not a guy that will have to move because he has flaws.

Rhodes is discussed as a CB/S because they're not sure if he has the skills to turn and run with receivers. IMO ILB and OLB are just too different in a 3-4 to get a guy that can play either one, which we saw with Timmons. I thought if anyone could make that transition he could, but he just didn't make an impact on the outside.

 

i'm not so sure rhodes would fall under that not good enough at one position but good enough player to do both. he's always been a 1st rd. talent and one of if not THE best one on one cover guy in the draft. that is something we have been drafting lately. better one on one cover guys. (allen, brown)

i also don't buy just because this guy couldn't do it , we should abandon trying it forever. timmons also took 3 years to get a starting spot at ILB.

carnell lake and woodson both made safety and corner work well. that didn't mean they weren't good at one position.

 

safety we have starters. on paper at least. we need starter quality depth because of troy and clarks age. an eventual starter.

RB is definately a need.

ILB is very thin. if foote comes back, we would have starters. rolle and mcfadden and sylvester are the backups. sylvester has done nothing to show he even should get another offer. mcfadden hasen't shown starter capabilities, that only leaves rolle with starting expierience behind a mediocre old LB. kion wilson or marshall mcfadden is the other option we have. ILB is a need. if foote gets a 1 year deal, they have to have a guy in place to learn it in one year. our other option is bank on spence being able to come in and play after sitting near two years next year.

 

Walts latest is quite interesting...

1. J Jones OLB
2. Teo ILB (w/ WR Woods, DB Amerson and S Elam there)
3. Aaron Dobson WR - Marshall (OL Barrett Jones, WR Swope and RB Ball all there too)
4. T. Jefferson S (Lattimore was available)
5. S. Taylor RB

Thats a fairly nice draft...but I have no idea who the hell the WR is...I'd rather have B. Jones than him...then that really would be an awesome draft I think!

 

Jones/Te'o?

Passing on Barrett Jones in the 3rd though? Seems nuts. Can anyone tell me why he is falling so far, at least according to Walt and Charlie?

A draft like that would be awesome, but it seems very "best case scenario, if all our guys fall really far".

 

Out of all the ones I've seen so far...this one seems more fantasy than anything...though weirder things have happened before.

 

i don't know why barret jones is falling but even on this site is graded at 6,0 that is very average ,here is his full scouting report
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=40795

 

I am looking at this and going...WOW! I like the Jones and Teo picks, especially for when we would get them.

In the 3rd, I would much rather draft Barrett Jones. No he isn't a need, but he is worth that pick.

I am okay with Jefferson, but I like trading up in the 4th and taking Rambo or up in the 5th and getting TJ MacDonald instead.

Jones
Teo
B. Jones
Rambo or McDonald

Great draft IMO, but we will need to be wise about the RB, WR, and TE positions with free agency and UDFAs to be competitive the way we need to be next year.

 

just saw mcshays latest mock. he has jones falling to us at 17. warmack to cowbys at 18. the thing i thought was funny is anash going 5th overall. did he have that good of combine?

 

I didn't write off Jefferson in mine so much as I preferred to go in a different direction. That mock shows us getting a starting OLB, ILB, LG, and S. That is huge for this team long term. No, it isn't perfect as it still leaves holes at the RB and WR spot and ???? marks at the TE spot, but it is a step. You can't fix every hole in just one draft.