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Two-year extension for Jaylen Warren

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, Sep 1, 2025.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Your first point was an absolute blunder but unfortunately Tomlin hadnt bought into the committee philosophy yet.

    The second point in regards to Pickett, Ben on his podcast said he doesn’t think Kenny was throwing to Najee. When you watch the replays he could be right. Najee just went up and got it.
     
  2. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Happy Holidays

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    Should have gotten the 5th year
     
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  3. NorthernBlitz

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    I'll give Kenny the benefit of the doubt. He doesn't have much else at this point IMO.

    Either way, it was a great catch by Najee.
     
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  4. Formerscribe

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    Running back careers are short, more so than safeties. Edmunds was consistently the worst player on that defense. There were times Harris carried the offense. Some folks here, seemingly including you, have selective memories where he is concerned.
     
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  5. Formerscribe

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  6. Formerscribe

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    Yes, the example was just as bad when you brought it up. Edmunds was terrible. Harris was a productive starter most of the time, and there were games he carried that team.
     
  7. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    This from the guy who still doesn't know the difference between a fact and an opinion. I offer tutoring services if you ever decide you wish to learn.
     
  8. Formerscribe

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    He was a better running back last year than Warren is this year. Same average per carry, but Harris went over the 1,000-yard mark, something Warren has almost no shot of reaching.
     
  9. Formerscribe

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    I only argued that they should keep him for one more year. The guy had a lot of mileage on him for four seasons. That's because, unlike Warren, he was able to handle a lead-back's workload.
     
  10. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Happy Holidays

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    Run along little man
     
  11. Formerscribe

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    It is a nonsense, subjestive statistic that focuses more on circumstances than things the player controls.

    As a runner, Warren is doing what Harris did last year, but with less volume.
     
  12. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Seriously, I know it can be difficult for a man as old as you to ask for help when you need it, but I'm a very good English tutor. I will even offer you a senior's discount. :drinks:
     
  13. feltdeez

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    Warren isn’t delivering slightly better results. He is better in 1 or 2 stat lines this year but overall this is disappointing given expectations.

    The Warren fans were talking about more splash plays, more yards, higher ypc, etc.
     
  14. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Happy Holidays

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    People like me can afford to hire professionals of high caliber

    I do see on your application that you stated you could not make an adequate wage to care for your family financially as a sports journalist and you elected to take employment where you could put in less effort than most working people

    I regret a person of your limited stature does not meet my high standards

    But I will file your application appropriately

    Thank you for your inquiry there will be no need to follow up or PM me
     
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  15. NorthernBlitz

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    The UFA market showed that real-life NFL teams valued Najee more than Edmunds. But not by much.
     
  16. NorthernBlitz

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    What do you think the word subjective means? Note: the antonym is objective (the adjective, not the noun).

    If succ% is subjective, how is it that it can be calculated without ever watching the play (i.e., without having any personal beliefs and feelings about a play...only the objective facts like down and distance and play result)?

    The fact that it judges the result of the play based on the circumstances is the entire point of the stat. It's why it's better than YPC for judging how consistent a player is.

    I pointed this out before, but we can look back at Bettis' career on pfr and they have his succ% from his rookie year! ****, they have Franco's succ% for half his career (staring in '78)!

    Do you think PFR hired some college coops to go back and look at every NFL play since '78 (47 years!)?


    Or do you think that maybe this is an "objective" stat that can be calculated for any play in any game that has a record of the play by play?

    Again...the irony here is that many fans of Najee would say things like "his YPC is low because he's often running in short yardage situations against stacked boxes. So when he gets 2 yards on 3rd and 1 his YPC goes down. And that doesn't reflect what his job was on that play." But that's a "successful" play.
     
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  17. forgotten1

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  18. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Lie and spread something false about me again and you’re gone.
     
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  19. Blast Furnace

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    Well hes at about 650 now with three games to go with about a 100 less carries than Harris at this point.

    Thanks for proving my point that Harris is a volume based RB.
     
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  20. jeh1856

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  21. S.T.D

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    For T. Edmunds....
    NFL teams showed once they got him, and injuries cannot be used with him, they didn't want him. If two, that as soon as they got him, got rid of him in two different years doesn't say it, nothing does.
    I will not get into this debate of bashing a former Steelers against a now Steeler. I won't do it, but everyone on here knows if ......
    1. Najee doesn't get hurt, the Chargers are still using him in some way.
    2. All the Warren over Najee guys thought, hell they didn't think, they said, if Warren was the starter he would way out do what Najee did.
    I personally loved the Najee/Warren role, and it was good for both of them, but like many people , they just look at ypc ,and feel that says it all.
    Anyone that has been around it long enough knows that most of the time the work horse RB will never have as high a ypc as the the 2nd guy. Most of the time.
    You can use most of these same stats people want to use with Samaje Perine against Jerome Bettis, and Samaje would look better, but we know he isn't.
    Now....Go Warren, Gainwell, and KJ.
     
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  22. Brice

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    Were you for or against giving a RB that has never been RB #1 before, $17 million for 2 years, with $12 million guaranteed.

    At least Najee was a known proven RB #1 at a 1 year $6 million price tag.
     
  23. Formerscribe

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    I see that in addition to assistance with basic vocabulary, you also continue to struggle with written ethics. Relying on making up false narratives when the facts do not work in your favor is a sign of poor character. That in your bitterness you felt the need to attack not only me, but also an entire profession, one that is fundamental to our society, leads me to believe you are not worth the trouble.
     
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  24. Formerscribe

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    If he is a volume-based running back, so is Warren. At least Harris showed he can handle the sort of volume that is beyond Warren's capacity. Given the choice between two backs with the same average per carry, I'll take the one who is over 1,000 yards, not the one who isn't even close.
     
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  25. Formerscribe

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    Fine. If you say I misread your intent in the post, so be it. My apologies. I did not lie or intentionally spread anything false about you.
     
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