Troy In Favor Of Signing Bradshaw

To me , the mouthiest and showiest of the "Young Money Posse" was inversely correlated to their talent. Sanders, who gave them their name, was the least talented, followed by AB (where every 1st down catch required Broadway coreography), and finally Wallace, whose
main crime was to test the free market.

 

Sanders is the best route runner and blocker of all three. He had some injury issues early on, but he's by no means the least talented.

 

While I don't agree that Wallace is the most talented of the three (for the record I think AB is), I agree that he was the least showy.

 

Every year he catches fewer passes and scores fewer TDs than his counterparts. If he were more talented than them, Ben would throw to him more. He's only a yr younger than Wallace or AB, so it's not like he's still waay less experienced. I'll give him one thing though, he leads the league in fumbling without contact at midfield. But he's first to strut before the cameras tellin ya bout da Young Money, after all, its about the bling!

 

Wallace's production was superior to ABs every yr for 3 straight yrs. I don't think you can show otherwise. But when he didn't resign last off season, and looked sure to be on his way out, Steeler fans contorted themselves in all sorts of ways to convince themelves that he really wasn't that good anyway. Wallace was the best WR on this team. He will be missed.

 

Wallace is faster than AB. AB has better hands, runs better routes, is better after the catch, is a better punt/kickoff returner, is better at contesting the DB for the ball, is better at catching the ball at its highest point, so he's better than Wallace in every objectionable WR category except straight line speed.

 

Jack is right as rain. Speed does not exactly make one great. Heyward-Bay is even faster than Wallace right? For me I'd rather have a guy that can catch and will fight for the football. Hines Ward comes to mind.

 

You see, steelersrule, you're forgetting that EVERYTHING is ultimately Mike Wallace, Rashard Mendenhall, or (if a more long-term issue) Bruce Arian's fault.

 

Mike Wallace set the tone for the season last year by holding out and DEMANDING that he be paid what he's worth since he is obviously worth more then the $50 million that the Steelers were offering, right? I mean the Dolphins PROVED that he was worth more than the $10 million a season that the Steelers were offering by paying him $13 million a season, correct? Hey, Wallace may not have achieved his goal by getting Larry Fitzgerald money but he came pretty darn close. He's now the third highest paid receiver in the NFL (and maybe in NFL history) and WE ALL KNOW that he's the third best receiver in NFL history don't we? I mean, we can't fault Mike Wallace for anything. Who cares if he loses focus if he's not involved in the game plan. Big deal if he drops a few crucial passes now and then. And it's ridiculous for us to assume that he ought to fight those big, bad DBs for the ball. He might break a fingernail or something. Or worse yet, tear an ACL and forego a HUGE CONTRACT that a team like the Dolphins or the Vikings are willing to pay, the former not having won a Super Bowl since the early 70s and the latter NEVER having won a Super Bowl. And besides, it's MUCH TOO COLD IN PITTSBURGH for somebody like Mike Wallace. It's hard to catch a football when it's below freezing so South Beach was calling his name. Blame Mike Wallace? Hey, NONE of this is his fault!

As for Mendenhall, he's such a great teammate that he decides not to show up for a football game and support his teammates in a very important late season game. BUT, who could blame the guy? I mean, Tomlin made him inactive so why show up and root for yahoos like Jonathan Dwyer and Isaac Redman. PUHLEEEZ! Do we really expect somebody with Mendy's talent to stand there on the sidelines in sweat pants, a la Duce Staley, and actually try to be a good teammate if he's not being allowed to dance with the football. Come on. Don't blame Mendy!

And finally, Bruce Arians. I'm not even going to go there.

 

Absolutely! I'm just not sure Scottie Montgomery was a good fit for the Young Money (hungry) crew. He was a young guy coaching young guys. Sometimes that works, but it's nice to see a more seasoned and experienced guy come in that's had some success working with WRs in the NFL.

 

You're missing the point there, Jack (and in doing so, kind of proving it). What does any of that have to do with Brown celebrating unnecessarily? That seems to be pretty much on Brown, to me.

 

how much can he celabrate, he's only scored 7 TD's in his career as a receiver. no he doesn't have more YAC then wallace. no they are not that close as receivers. let's not forget wallace had double teams and the other teams best cover man too.

we have not made up the TD's that we lost in mendy and wallace. why are we even blaming mendy for anything, he had 51 carries last year. he did however catch a TD pass. he had half as many scores as redman and half as many as dwyer, with way way less touches.

it's not a problem getting rid of them but to just hope and pray someone makes up those scores and alot more we are in trouble, bradshaw or not. we need a TD scorer. i don't care if they dance after every catch if they get the ball in the EZ. heath and cotchery are about the only guys that don't celabrate. heath had every right to do so last year. look at gronkowski, he's an azz. we need firepower added,and alot of it.

 

I don't think I'm missing the point at all. Brown does celebrate unnecessarily. So does Sanders. Those first down antics are pathetic and I wish they'd stop. Wallace actually acted like he'd been there before when he scored a TD. I'll give him credit for that (and not much else - lol).

I guess I did rant a little there, but I do get kind of frustrated when people like to point out how Wallace, Mendy and BA get blamed for everything on this board and yet they fail to blame Wallace, Mendy and BA for ANYTHING. All of those guys had plenty of shortcomings and deserve to be blamed for their roles in the Steelers lack of success. I guess I was just trying to point that out.

 

I see. I guess for me, the things you raised (apart from Arians... agreed, let's not even go there...) were basically individual problems on an individual level, that had an effect on the team only as much as one individual on a 50-odd man squad can. I'm not *not* blaming Wallace for being egotistical and misjudging his own value. But the extent to which all of our problems are linked to him can be quite overstated. Like mac said, we haven't yet replaced him, or Mendenhall. I'm struggling to follow the logic that by getting rid of one guy who held out for camp we turn an 8-8 team into a 12-4 team. I appreciate that wasn't quite what you were responding to, though.

 

Btw, I seem to have lost the ability to get a carriage return (or whatever the modern digital term for pressing "enter" at the end of a sentence is) when posting. Is it just me?

 

Troy needs to worry about being able to play 16 games and not standing on the sidelines in sweats like Duce Staley.

 

I have a couple thoughts here (that is all my wife allows me a year) and you can agree or disagree. Just looking at things from a different perspective, food for thought kind of. If you have been around a while (and I have) you know that sometimes you can be surrounded by great people and still be missing chemistry. Heck, you can put a group of good friends together and still have a bad time, once in a while. I'm not sure whatever turmoil we had on the team last year has to be anyone's fault. You lost some leaders, had some hold-outs and the season didn't go as planned. Easy to sit, now, and pick it all apart but I have to believe it is a combination of the bunch. As for the celebration thing, well, I am with BFT on this. I guess I'm glad that a guy is excited about doing his job and am fine with him motivating himself however he needs to. I like to know that theys players have an identity whether its outgoing or stoic. We have all seen the guy that comes to work, doesn't say a word, does his job with a scowl and goes home. Guy might be a good worker but it can bring you down and make you feel less motivated. Since they are, slowly, taking so much away from this game I have to enjoy the excitement that some of these guys feel.

 

I don't disagree with this at all. I don't mind a little well placed enthusiasm, but acting like you've caught the game-winning TD after a first down reception is a little overboard, especially when your actual touchdown receptions have been sparse.

 

ABSOmufknLUTELY
i hated seeing IKE make a good play in the 1st qtr and do his YOU CAN'T SEE ME CRAP
only to get burnt to hell late in the game and when it matters most

showboating sucks

paper or plastic? PLASTIC? HIGH FIVE!!!!! gettin jiggy with it

(moonwalk)

 

I see where you are coming from and agree. Some of the guys need to figure out the fine line between enthusiasm and being God's gift to the game!

 

Me too. I have to click on the "Switch Editor to Source Mode" button on the far left to get it to work.