Trade Tomlin to Giants?

forgotten1 · Nov 13, 2025 at 9:11 AM

NorthernBlitz said: ↑

What is the "NFL Coach of the Year Award"?

As I said in my post upthread, never AP Coach of the Year.

I'm pretty sure that the AP award is the "real" award.

Just like the AP All Pro teams are the "real" ones (for HoF consideration anyway).

In part because two of the "Coach of the Year" awards you've listed here are "Coaches of the year" awards because they give two awards every year.

The awards you're talking about are better than the "Noll's Mom thinks he's a great coach" award. But they aren't really what people mean when they say coach of the year.

Again, AP Coach of the Year winners can be found here.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/awards/ap-coach-of-the-year.htm

Noll never won.

Cowher is the only Steelers coach who won (1992).

Mostly because we're rarely considered to be bad enough before the season starts to get the "most underrated team by the media in the off season" award. Which is really what the coach of the year is about.
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Noll won the

UPI Coach of the Year '72 '78

Formerscribe · Nov 13, 2025 at 9:49 AM

Steelresolve said: ↑

We knew who Wilson and Fields were. Obviously we didn’t want to run that back. We tried for Stafford and for the QB that went to Seattle it didn’t work out. After going through that process Fields understood he wasn’t a first priority here and quickly signed with the Jets. At that point in FA the most viable option was Rodgers. It wasn’t that we weren’t willing to pay fair market value for him. He wasn’t looking for money on thus deal at all, so I don’t know where you got your information from. He wasn’t looking holding out because he wasn’t sure he even wanted to play anymore. His supposed preference was Minnesota by the way.

Regardless we made some dum decisions you can call it desperation or clouded judgement or whatever but signing a 34 year old cb who is a zone heavy cb to play on a man heavy scheme just isn’t wise. But we keep on doing this with players over and over and over. How about Kendrick Greene to C?
It’s arrogance on our part to think we know what is best for said player. How many more aging cb’s do we need to sign before we figure it out? I know the scouting department knows some of these aging vets aren’t worth signing. It’s obvious that Tomlin is driving these decisions.

The concerning part is these poor decisions keep happening within the organization. That tells me Tomlin doesn’t allow the Scouts to provide honest assessments, or the information does flow freely and honestly within the organization to enlighten Tomlin to prevent these poor decisions from continuing to happen year after year. It’s not a good situation for the organization. Tomlin has grown too big for the organization. Either he doesn’t value other opinions or people are afraid to voice them. That’s my observation. Yes desperate teams do what we did this year signing a ton of aging talent. At least we did it without sacrificing future draft capital so we smart about that.
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Darnold's contract in Seattle was not unreasonable. The Steelers should have spent the money on him, kept Pickens, and then we would be seeing something this year and going forward.

NorthernBlitz · Nov 13, 2025 at 9:53 AM

Joel Buchsbaum said: ↑

They are awards. I'm pretty sure they don't award second place. I will let you defer to whether they are good enough.

IMO, Noll deserved coach of the year in our first super bowl appearance.

As for the title of the thread,

Trade Tomlin to Giants, I take it you are for my opinion.
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When you post that he won AFC coach of the year, that means there is also an NFC coach of the year. So it's "coaches of the year" from that organization (which no one cares about because the AP award is the one that matters).

I have replied in the thread on my opinion on trading Tomlin.

TLDR; I'd do it for a high pick that would give us a chance at a franchise QB (QB>>>HC). But I think there's very, very little chance that it happens.

NorthernBlitz · Nov 13, 2025 at 9:59 AM

forgotten1 said: ↑

Noll won the

UPI Coach of the Year '72 '78
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I'm sure there are lots of awards he won (and deserved).

When people say "he was NFL coach of the year", they mean "he won the AP NFL coach of the year award".

Just like when people say "he was a first team all-pro", it's the AP 1st team all pro that they care about.

Noll was a great coach. I don't see why people care about whether he won the AP award or not. I'm also sure that he was much happier winning SBs vs. AP awards.

Just like I don't need Peter King and friends to put Hines in the hall (they won't) for me to believe he's one of the best Steelers players I've watched play the game.

Steelresolve · Nov 13, 2025 at 10:42 AM

Formerscribe said: ↑

Darnold's contract in Seattle was not unreasonable. The Steelers should have spent the money on him, kept Pickens, and then we would be seeing something this year and going forward.
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I’m not so sure Darnold would do as well here under Tomlin.

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