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Top Ten Steelers WR All Time

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelresolve, May 9, 2022.

  1. Steelresolve

    Steelresolve Well-Known Member

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    I Like your list too. The reason I chose to put Ward first was because of what he embodied as an overall player. Swann and Stallworth were great but to me Ward did more with less at QB. Ward set the tone. He was a leader and his blocking was an element that often gets overlooked. I couldn’t put Swann up that high simply because of the length of his career. To me Brown was obviously the most talented and he was dominant for five years but what did the team do over this five years. How did he impact the players around him? I just have a hard time getting past his character. The guy was gonna be a shoe in to be a HOFer and he threw it ll away. I like Randle El as # 10.
     
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  2. Karl

    Karl Well-Known Member

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    John Stallworth gets my #1 vote. Tough as nails...
    Swann could make those highlight film catches and, in an era, where Jack Tatum was looking to knock your head off. (As was Stallworth.)
    Antonio Brown had it all... what a shame.
    Then there's all the other names mentioned.

    For old timers.... Buddy Dial. :)
     
  3. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

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    Since no criteria was given, my list will be a total package list. A combination of stats, Super Bowl success, longevity, talent, and what each player meant to the Steelers, and the City of Pittsburgh, will all be used to evaluate the players. That being said here is my list.

    Hines Ward - If you consider all the factors I listed above this is a no brainer
    John Stallworth - See Above
    Antonio Brown - On a list that only takes into account skill/stats, AB is clearly #1 (Honestly the best I have ever watched besides Jerry Rice)
    Lynn Swann - would certainly be higher if not for longevity/stats
    Louis Lipps - No Super Bowl success, but if you grew up in the 80's like I did, this was the only legit superstar the Steelers had.
    Santonio Holmes - Similar stats as those behind him, the Super Bowl MVP sets him apart.
    Yancey Thigpen - He and Wallace each had a Super bowl appearance and similar stats. Yancey was a more complete receiver IMO
    Mike Wallace - See above
    Plaxico Burress - Similar stats to the 3 above, but no Super Bowl combined with being a knucklehead at times drops him to 9.
    Diontae Johnson - Very quietly has been part of two playoff runs, and is compiling some nice stats. Will pass most of those above him in 2022
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    No ....I don't even hate the guy, but have you forgotten that while on this team .....with 6 other Qbs....Brown disappeared....not a single TD, and only one 100 yard game.
    Also Ward was on a run 1st team His entire career....even during Ben's early years.
    When AB got here We had changed.
     
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  5. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Among the few things more ridiculous than judging a quarterback by his team's record is judging a wide receiver by his team's record.
     
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  6. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    The league had changed, yet Brown was the best receiver in the game for at least five years. Ward was never considered the best in the game. He wasn't even close.
    Trying to discount Brown based on a handful of games, including the ones with Michael Vick ...um...I guess you can call it throwing....sorry, but no.
     
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  7. Steelresolve

    Steelresolve Well-Known Member

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    You have it all wrong. That is the foundational stat by which all players are judged. That is why people today still rank Bradshaw ahead of Ben. Ward was a winner. Brown was a whiner.
     
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  8. Steelers4tim

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    I agree with this listing completely. Ward's blocking and his ability to put fear into the minds of a DEFENSE is the tiebreaker with Stallworth & Brown...someone could be immortal and watch football for the next 800 years and never see a better blocking WR than Hines Ward. When you're a WR and you sometimes make defensive players have to eat their food through straws, you get lots of votes as #1 in a city like Pittsburgh!


    #firetomlin
     
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  9. kakhatesmortgages66

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    10. Weegie Thompson. Lock thread!
     
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  10. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Ward played on winners. There is a difference. Wide receivers don't have nearly enough control over the games to make your point of view make sense.

    Take Brown's last playoff appearance with the Steelers as an example. He caught seven passes for 132 yards and two touchdowns. By your logic, that is somehow his fault that they lost that game, not Roethlisberger for the early turnovers or the defense for being unable to handle Blake Bortles.
     
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  11. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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    Swann
    Stallworth
    Ward
    Brown
    Holmes

    Fill in whoever you like at any given time for the last 5.
     
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  12. Steelresolve

    Steelresolve Well-Known Member

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    Thats a bad example. Those were garbage yards when there defense was playing conservative to preserve a lead. With Brown he didn’t have the intangibles the make a great leader or teammate. You can’t quantify those things and the importance they bring to a team. Sure Brown was more talented than Ward but that wasn’t what the ratings were about. You have your opinion and your entitled to it. Mine is just different. There is no right or wrong here.
     
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  13. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

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    Almost a perfect list...Just add Jefferson
     
  14. Formerscribe

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    It's not a bad example at all. The Steelers still had life into the fourth quarter of that game in part because Brown made some spectacular plays.

    When we get to the part of a discussion where someone brings up intangibles, it usually means they just like that guy better and won't hear anything else.

    Brown wasn't just more talented than Ward. He was better. It wasn't close. So yeah, there is a right and popular. You chose popular. I chose right.
     
  15. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Can we come in

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    No

    Bradshaw is ranked ahead of Ben because he was much better
     
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  16. Steelresolve

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    Ok how about all fo the QB’s who are more physically gifted than Brady? Does that make them better QB’s? Ben is more physically gifted than Brady. Ben had a stronger arm, he was bigger, stronger, faster but he was not the better QB. Ben didn’t have the intangibles that Brady had. I view it as which player would you build your team around. To me I would much rather build a team around Ward than Brown. In the end who was more reliable? Who had the better stats overall? Sure Brown was dominant over a short time period but his mental makeup didn’t allow him to sustain it and he became a detriment to whatever team he was on. Your only looking at the physical instead of the whole person.
     
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  17. Steelresolve

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    You state it as if it is a fact. I believe Ben is better than Bradshaw.
     
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  18. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Can we come in

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    And people believe the world is flat

    We invite all types to this fine establishment
     
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  19. Hanratty#5

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    In my opinion when both Ben and Bradshaw were at their peak, I thought Bradshaw was a little bit better. What Ben has in his favor is that he was really good right from the start and kept it up for 15+ years. It took Bradshaw around 5 years to hit his stride and he only played 8 full seasons. So for longevity I would pick Ben but if you had one game to win it would be Bradshaw.
     
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  20. Steelresolve

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    Bradshaws teams were loaded. Bradshaw never really put up the stats that Ben did but it is really hard to compare them based on the different era’s. The DB’s got away with a lot more during Bradshaws time. I just feel like Bradshaw was Favre before Favre... a gunslinger. Ben was a gunslinger as well to degree but he also had the ability to improvise and scramble to keep the play alive. I feel like Ben was more of a rhythm passer and when he was locked in nobody was better. For one game and one final drive to win it all...my money is on Ben. He already proved it in the super bowl winning drive against Arizona.
     
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  21. Steelers4tim

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    I find it VERY interesting that not one person has mentioned that #12 had the luxury of being coached by the Emperor while #7 was hamstrung with Mike Dumblin...carry on.


    #firetomlin
     
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  22. Formerscribe

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    I reject your premise as inaccurate. I'm looking at the production, not the physical gifts. There is a big difference.

    When it comes to intangibles, I'm sorry, but you weren't in that locker room. You don't have the information to judge that. I was in the locker room a few times when Ward was there, but I don't have enough information to judge that, either.

    I'll stick to what we actually know, which is the players they were on the field. In that arena, only one of them was ever considered the best in the game at his position and that was Brown.
     
  23. Formerscribe

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    Noll was one of the greatest coaches of all time, but he clearly had no idea how to handle Bradshaw for years.
     
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  24. Steelresolve

    Steelresolve Well-Known Member

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    I don’t believe you have to be in the locker room to see the effect ones character has on the team. It is pretty obvious Brown had some major character flaws. You are only look at part of the production, are you looking at leadership, blocking, setting the tone, etc.? We just have different opinions. There is no right or wrong here. You have to understand I look at this as which receiver was best FOR THE STEELERS. No Doubt from a pure receiving perspective Brown was clearly better than Ward. But in my opinion for the Steelers overall Ward was a better for them. I will take a selfless player who exhibits leadership, intimidation and is more well rounded while also having solid production over diva any day. In fact I wonder at times did Brown hurt us. I feel like Ben sometimes forced it to Brown to much and as a result was the counterproductive?
     
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  25. santeesteel

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    Ju Ju needs to be on the list, if for nothing more than the hit he put on Burfict!
     
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