Tomlin's Coaching Tree?

Is there any of Tomlin's coaches that went on to do anything in the NFL except Ariens? I mean we keep promoting within and it seams to be getting worst doesn't that fall on the head coach? Am I not seeing something . Look at the base of the tree MR Rooney

 

Arians isn't part of Tomlin's tree because he joined the Steelers as a coach 3 years before Tomlin was hired.

 

Zippo, but he's only been a head coach for 15 years.

 

Tree?? TREE???!!

You meant shrub!!!

Cajun

 

This again?

 

Agreed. This comes up whenever things are going bad. What difference does it make if someone goes to a different team and has success? Any of Bellychuck’s guys having any real success? As people on here love to point out, who had ever heard of Tomlin before he got the job? To all the haters, he HAS been successful in Pittsburgh. That said, he’s probably run his course.

 

Exactly! BB’s coaching tree consists of Josh Mcdaniels and nobody. What exactly has mcdaniels done as a head coach?

 

This isn't true at all. McDaniels, Romeo Crenell, Flores, Matt Patricia. Bill Obrien, Charlie Weis. That's quite a list, and that's just off the top of my head. There probably are more.

 

Add Eric Mangini, Jim Swartz, Joe Judge, and Al Groh to the list. Lol.

Not many of those guys have had a whole lot of success. But to say McDaniels and nobody else is just silly.

 

None cause he sucks

 

you can try to pretty it up but.............

 

But what have any of them done....besides get fired???

 

I agre. But we are talking coaching tree. The Patriots have had a ton of assistants move on to be head coaches. Tomlin has not. What they do once they get there is another story.

 

If you grade a coach simply by who coached under him, Sid Gilman has to be right up there. Al Davis, Bum Phillips, some guy named Chuck Noll (or is it Knoll)? Gilman won one championship, otherwise not that much success.

 

This coaching tree stuff is funny.

How's Bellichicks coaching tree doing?

 

I see what You are saying, but I don't consider it a coaching tree if none succeed......I would just call it branches that fell from a tree.
His latest one included.....I believe has the same exact record as We do....1-4.

 

Coaching trees are significant as an indicator of how well respected a coach is and how well other football people think they develop their staff. It's an actions vs. words kind of thing.

 

Even if they all fail???

 

There are legitimate reasons to criticize Mike Tomlin's work as a head coach. This is not one of them. It is a symptom, not the disease. If you want to say his lack of a coaching tree is evidence of the poor job he has done in hiring assistant coaches, that makes sense. On its own, however, I couldn't care less that he hasn't developed a head coach for some other team.

 

I found it!!!!

 

Nailed it!

 

Is his coaching tree the ultimate indicator of his ability and overall success? Nope. But it is somewhat interesting and maybe telling, that no one comes asking to interview our coordinators or assistants. Is it because he doesn’t develop these guys and allow them to grow? Maybe it’s because he’s too involved and doesn’t let them do their jobs? Maybe he stinks at hiring? I don’t know, but it’s not something I’m going to completely dismiss.

 

I think the point is that others recognized Bellicheck as a good coach and hoped that some of that may have rubbed off on his assistants. Whether they had success or not is not the point. It's a recognition of Bellicheck's success and thinking that probably got those folks their opportunity. That they got fired afterwards is on them.

 

Yes. The success rate of NFL coaches is not high. Most do fail.

What we are talking about is guys getting the opportunity based off their experience playing under a successful head coach