Tomlin's coaching tree

Why is Cowher left off of this list?

Also, no shame in not being as good as the coaches on this list.

You list the number of people offered/took jobs...how much success did they have?

 

What 8 were those?? And you're absolutely positive all 8 first NFL experience was on Cowher's staff?

 

Yeah, there's no way that's right. Gailey, Whiz, Arians, and LeBeau all had NFL experience prior to joining the Steelers. Who else would be on that list?

 

Cowher's coaching tree:
Assistant coaches under Bill Cowher that became head coaches in the NFL:

1. Bruce Arians: Indianapolis Colts (2012), Arizona Cardinals (2013–2017), Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2019–present)
2. Dom Capers: Carolina Panthers (1995–1998), Houston Texans (2002–2005)
3. Chan Gailey: Dallas Cowboys (1998–1999), Buffalo Bills (2010–2012)
4. Jim Haslett: New Orleans Saints (2000–2005), St. Louis Rams (2008)
5. Dick LeBeau: Cincinnati Bengals (2000–2002)
6. Marvin Lewis: Cincinnati Bengals (2003–2018)
7. Mike Mularkey: Buffalo Bills (2004–2005), Jacksonville Jaguars (2012), Tennessee Titans (2015–2017)
8. Ken Whisenhunt: Arizona Cardinals (2007–2012), Tennessee Titans (2014–2015)

 

Most if not all of those guys were assistants under other head coaches before Cowher. Are they on multiple trees?

 

The way people usually view these trees is the last coach an assistant worked for before becoming a HC. That's the tree they fall under.

 

Thats BS. So if a guy spends one season under someone's tutelage and goes on to be a head coach the following season that means he gets attached to that tree?? I'm thinking the prime example here is Marvin Lewis who I didnt even know was on the Steelers staff at one time. When i think Marvin Lewis i think the Ravens defensive coordinator before he became a head coach with Cincinnatti so this coaching tree cant be right if were going with your theory. Lewis only spent one season with the Steelers. Arians was OC with the Colts, not the Steelers, before getting his first head coaching job. Even if it is right its petty because none of those men amounted to anything as head coaches besides Arians, but he had been coaching as an assistant in the NFL since 88-89. He didnt join the Steelers till 2003.

 

Tomlin has a coaching shrub

 

How many of the assistants that got the HC jobs kept those jobs?

 

It all seems to be subjective. Chris Palmer shows up on Parcells' tree as a direct descendant, but he started with someone else and was with Jacksonville before becoming the Browns head coach. Romeo Crennel is also shown as a direct Parcells' descendent, though he was under BB in NE for four years before becoming the Browns coach.

 

Tomlins coaching tree.

Fictners route tree only had one low branch that every DC could climb all over and one skinny branch way up near the top that Ben couldn't reach.

 

Way too many branches, you are being too generous!



This is more like it, road Bill's veterans to early success and then has just slowly died and rotted once they were gone.

 

You can bag on Tomlins coaching tree if you want. But this list is hardly impressive at the HC level. Of the best of this bunch: Arians had coached in the NFL for 11 seasons (3 as an OC) and had been a college HC or OC for 10 seasons, before Bill got a chance to mold him. Marvin Lewis only had 4 yrs with BC as as LB coach, but had 6 as the DC in Balt, doesn’t that make part of Brian Billicks tree? Whis, I’ll give ya, but he only had 2 winning season in 8 as HC. The rest of these guys weren’t even that lucky.

Few would argue about Bill Belichicks coaching genius. But the acorns from his tree pretty much ended up as squirrel scat vs mighty oaks.

 

Bottom line: There has been very little interest of other teams going after Tomlins coaches after nearly 15 years. What does that tell you, if you're honest with yourself?

 

I agree that it isn't impressive, but 8 is better than zero.

I think Belichick controls all aspects of his team, the coordinators are not expected to do as much. They obviously didn't do much more than hold Gatorade cups when Brady came into his prime. Belichick also controls the front office side of the team too (draft room, contracts, free agents, etc). Difference is Tomlin needs support because he can't manage any aspect of the team. He gets credit for being a motivator and a players coach, but I feel that is a worthless trait when you don't win hardware. That is essentially the equivalent of an adult babysitter.

 

In the end who gives a ****. It’s well known the Steelers pay assistant coaches the lowest cumulative salaries in the league. Maybe the assistants they get are no good because of this....