To everyone who thinks its bad to fire a coach during the season...

The Ravens fired offensive coordinator Cam Cameron during the season last year. Oh yea and they won the Super Bowl last year.

Interesting note, the guy who replaced Cameron was interviewed and turned down by the Steelers to be their new offensive coordinator after they fired BA, who even more interesting, has won 11 games as a head coach since being fired by the Steelers, while the Steelers have only won 8.

 

That's more of an exception to the rule. I would not fire a coach during the season. REmember when we fired our special teams coach last year a week before the season started ( I think). It usually doesn't turn out well.

 

Thanks, now I can't unread that. I hate the ravens

 

It worked For the ravens because their coach actually coaches and does his job. Our coach unleashes hell and talks about the standards.

 

I'm NOT opposed to firing Haley (or anyone else for that matter).
My question is do you sit Ben and try Grads at QB for a game or two before you fire someone??

 

I'm sorry but I don't buy into the play calling as the reason why we look so inept. Let me first actually see a game where we don't make dumb mistakes,costly penalties,turnovers etc... Let me see a game that we actually create a TO or two. Let me see a game where our D routinely keeps the opponent from flipping the field causing terrible field position for our offense. We commit the basic sins of football on a weekly basis. That's why we continue to struggle.
i know the easiest thing to do is to blame the OC and his play calling it is a defense mechanism. It's hard to admit that our team just might not be good enough or even smart enough to perform consistently well. I have seen plenty of teams this year putting up lots of points even with turnovers and mistakes. It's like every offense in this league has evolved but not ours. All the teams with above average and elite QBs are lighting up the scoreboards routinely.

its hard to justify firing Haley so soon especially when Ben was off to one of his most productive years ever last year,that was until the injury. I think Ben is gun shy and maybe he feels the scary injury he suffered last year was because Haley wants him in the pocket. The truth is a injury could happen at anytime,just ask Pouncey. We have to figure out where and how it went so so wrong when things were starting to click and figure a way on how to get back to that.

The truth of the matter is this O under Ben has never really been explosive and efficient. The fact that he's getting older and losing some of his mobility is now the reality. The days of third and Ben are slowly dwindling. We need to find a system and a plan that works. We DO have the talent to be a very productive offense but we need a plan of attack where everyone's on the same page. It's time to take the next step in evolution. With the way all the rules greatly favor the offenses, it should be so easy even a caveman can do it. With the 15 minutes you just wasted reading this,you coulda saved 15% on car insurance.

 

I hope this is a joke.

 

Nope, quite serious actually. Ben not playing like Ben was discussed here several times during the preseason, but that was dismissed by the standard "preseason doesn't matter mantra" that was bantered about.

 

I'm sorry but I just don't agree with most of you guys about Haley. Last year when Haley forbade Ben his deep passing, sandlot football game, he was on pace for a MVP type season. This year, since Haley has given Ben more latitude in changing plays and calling audibles everything has fallen apart. Put the shackles back on Ben for the good of the team. He may not like it (he didn't last year) but at least the offense might be semi decent moving forward.

I saw this posted by someone,on another site. (i know, i know,but its reputable. not as great as this one of course) I think it's on track. Similar to what I posted earlier. Better summation. Maybe it's a bit of a power struggle to see whose idea of a offense works. When does this awful experiment end? Ben-0 Haley -2 ?

 

I was hoping for a reason why we suck other than the fact WE SUCK!

 

Is this a joke??? Now lean forward and choke yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LhntG_8PUs

*Mod edit- Removed embed due to language.

 

The coaching change worked for the Ravens because they had a lot of talent on offense. The Steelers do not. Changing coaches at this point would do little to fix things.

 

I'm sorry... I'm not trying to be insulting, but it's going to be...

I thought Steelers fans were supposed to be knowledgeable. Clearly that's not the case. I've seen several posts like this lately that just boggle my mind.

So you want to bench BY FAR the most valuable player on our team... For a guy that in his career has a 21 to 24 TD to INT ratio, a 65.8 QB rating, and a 6-14 record as a starter?

 

I didn't actually say that I wanted to bench Ben in favor of Grads. What I said was that I only wanted to consider possibly trying that before someone (be it Haley or whoever) got fired. Quite a big difference, IMO.

 

How is "start grad" different than "maybe we should start grad" really? You're implying that things could improve with Gradkowski.

 

Below is my original post, yet once again you choose to leave out the before someone is fired part of it and I raised it as a question, not as a statement.

 

At this point, I don't see how firing haley could make things worse, but the bottom line that I've been stressing all off season still holds true..... games are, and always will be won up front!!!!!

 

And if you refer to my original post above, I did NOT say that.

 

Ok, thanks. That's all I was asking, what folks thought about the idea. I included that question in the poll today also, but no one (including myself) has yet picked it.

 

when ben was his greatest, we also had a ton of talent around him. yes I do think he is some of the problem and he's not above part of the criticism. no player on the field is.

 

The kicker right now is that Ben is taking more of a beating by staying in the pocket than he used to outside of the pocket, back when we wanted him to move into the pocket to protect him. And I don't really notice him holding onto the ball too long. There is pressure within the first 1-1.5 seconds of the ball being snapped.

That falls on the o-line and whoever is drafting/signing/evaluating our offensive linemen AS WELL AS whoever decided that switching to a zone blocking scheme was a good idea (as well as hiring an o-line coach that was fired by the Chiefs)