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TJ Watt

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Sep 10, 2018.

  1. LoneGranger

    LoneGranger Well-Known Member

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    Me too. I am hoping it doesn't mean he is missing more tackles than usual. :rolleyes:
     
  2. Busman

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    shamarko?
     
  3. groutbrook

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    I'm not that interested in the answer.
     
  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Matthew Thomas
     
  5. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Beer is good

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    I’m not that interested in the question.

    ;)
     
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  6. groutbrook

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    No one is.
     
  7. mcam

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    Good post. I've reviewed a lot on Dupree. Have been pulling for him since we drafted him.

    A couple good things.. 1) he's one of the fastest ones off the snap 2) he has great speed 3) Has a good speed rush when the QB doesn't see him 4) good in zone coverage << an overlooked area of his game 5) he stays disciplined in his run gaps.

    A couple bad things 1) He has trouble turning the corner/flipping his hips in toward the QB on the pass rush and 2) once the offensive lineman locks him he seems incapable of using his hands to disrupt and unlock.

    Dupree has turned out to be a very average edge rusher, but he has other things going for him which makes him a viable starter. IMO.

    I'm going to anticipate 8 sacks this year from the blind side or going up the middle, which isn't bad. We'll see.

    As for TJ, a 4 sack performance with a blocked punt is pretty pimp. Looking forward to more of that.
     
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  8. AskQuestionsLater

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    As have I. I do believe Bud can still be a very good pass rusher. He has the tools to succeed and has gotten better since 2015.


    Here is something I dug up in the world of Twitter that just may get excite you.



     
  9. MojaveDesertPghFan

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    Didn't see this posted anywhere else -

    TJ gets AFC Defensive P.O.W. First Steeler to win it since Timmons in 2010. That's a long stretch. How long has Troy been gone?

    3 sacks (official scorer took one away)
    11 tackles
    1 blocked FG attempt

    https://triblive.com/sports/steeler...j-watt-named-afc-defensive-player-of-the-week

    EDIT: He just won it again this week for Falcons game on Oct 7, 2018. Wow. Nothing for 16 weeks times 8 years, and now two out of 5 weeks he won it. Mighty fine young man. :applaud:
     
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  10. mcam

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    Yeah I see him getting back there and chasing the QB, but unlike Watt he doesn't do a great job of turning the corner and using his hands to get off the block. James Harrison was great at both. Either way 8 pressures does greatly impact the offensive pass even if they don't develop into sacks.
     
  11. steelcurtainmrp

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    pretty cool stuff right here. Some great genes if you ask me!
     
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  12. WinTheNorth

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    What officially counts as "pressure"? Does it mean the player has a clear path to the QB? Just that he's within a certain distance of the QB? More specifically in duprees case, if he's close to the QB but getting pushed right by because of a bad angle, does that count as a pressure?
     
  13. AskQuestionsLater

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    Not exactly.


    A pressure is when the defender himself is within reach of the opposing quarterback; forcing the quarterback to move around in the pocket or out of the pocket overall.


    In short? Should Bud be within distance and force the Quarterback to move around or out of the pocket, yes, it counts as a pressure.
     
  14. thesteeldeal

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    Sorry but I'm not sold on pressures as a stat. To me it is subjective. Yes applying pressure is a positive but it does have to translate to sacks once in a while. A QB is under pressure most of the game and they continue to make plays regardless.
     
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  15. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Beer is good

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    Although, at least in theory, it does cause the QB to throw sooner leading to incomplete passes.
     
  16. thesteeldeal

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    Agreed but there are also varying degrees of pressure that's why to me it's subjective . It's better than no pressure but pressure and sacks is the aim....obviously :smiley1:
     
  17. groutbrook

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    'Pressures' don't seem to faze guys like Rodgers or Brees. For the most part, they seem to prefer being forced to move around and make a play. Ben too (at least at one time in his career).
     
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  18. SteelerGlenn

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    Translation: I hate Dupree so I’m not acknowledging that stat.
     
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  19. thesteeldeal

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    Who?
     
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  20. SteelerGlenn

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    LOL
     
  21. thesteeldeal

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    Gotcha!
     
  22. uncblue012

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    I'm still not sure of my feelings about Watt. I think he's really damn solid, and he's having a great year, but he still disappears for several games at a time before having a massive performance. Part of it is more than likely the secondary issues, but he does get pushed around some games. I also think he's been playing with that hamstring injury and isn't 100%.
     
  23. biggbunch68

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    Watt fined 20.000$ For hitting Matt Ryan in the knees
     
  24. Formerscribe

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    Seriously? That does not qualify as a hit. He barely touched Ryan on that play. It shouldn't have been a penalty, much less a fine.
     
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  25. biggbunch68

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    NFL fined its co-sack leader, TJ Watt, $20,054 for “forcibly hitting in the knee area or below” Falcons’ QB Matt Ryan, per source. The league office instructed the Steelers to deduct the money from Watt’s paycheck if he does not appeal.

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