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TJ Watt has locked up NFL DPOY, right?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Benny Lava, Jan 11, 2022.

  1. Benny Lava

    Benny Lava Well-Known Member

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    There's no possible way he gets Donald'd again, right?
     
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  2. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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  3. steelersrock151

    steelersrock151 Well-Known Member

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    One would hope. It should be unanimous, but there will be some idjets out there voting for the cb from Dallas. Outside of him, no other player deserves a first place vote.
     
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  4. steelersrock151

    steelersrock151 Well-Known Member

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    I'll go even further. If any voter doesn't have TJ either first or second on their ballot, their credentials should be pulled.
     
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  5. FosterMorris

    FosterMorris Well-Known Member

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    It should be unanimous. Diggs got a lot of picks but he also allowed a ton of yards- think Marcus Peters who is on his 3rd team in 6 seasons.

    "In fact, Diggs ranks 45th among cornerbacks in PFF coverage grade this season despite the gaudy turnover figures."

    PFF is not a credible arbiter of player rankings, but I don't think the player they think is 45th best is a generational talent who should be in the conversation with Deion Sanders, and Rod and Charles Woodson as DPOY corners. There have only been 5 corners from 1980 to win that award.

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  6. steelersrock151

    steelersrock151 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you, but there are people that will not vote for TJ because he is a Steeler. And they'll need someone to vote for, and this way they can point and say "He had 11 interceptions."
    And since you have access to PFF, where is Watt rated? I can't even find him under edge rushers or linebackers without full access.
     
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  7. FosterMorris

    FosterMorris Well-Known Member

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    Micah Parsons is being given the second best odds to win DPOY and Watt had 9.5 more sacks, 2 more FF, 3 more FR, 4 more PD.

    Parsons had a great rookie season. DROY for sure. Good chance he wins DPOY another year but not this one.
     
  8. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    TJ has to get it. If he doesn't I give up. He really should of gotten it last year.

    I think we will see Parsons win that award in the future. What he did as Rookie just unreal.
     
  9. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    It’s no lock. Hell, PFF didn’t even grade him as 1st team all pro at edge. They gave those 2 spots to Garrett and Crosby. Just additional evidence that PFF’s biased grading has limited value.
     
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  10. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Former NFL LB Jonathan Vilma said he would give it to Garrett :facepalm:, I watched the Browns play the Raiders, Packers, and Steelers, Garrett was invisible in all of those games.
     
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  11. Lizard72

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    Yeah, I don't get it. You pull off 22.5 sacks, have better pressure numbers, defend the pass with PD numbers in CB territory, have way for TFL and singlehandedly take over games. Nah, I think this defensive lineman edge rusher is better for reasons...
     
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  12. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    Why does anyone take them seriously?

    All they are is evidence that you can twist fabricated formulas any way you want to suit your bias. It's not moneyball. It's not even "lies, damn lies, and statistics." It's statistical fiction.
     
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  13. defva

    defva Well-Known Member

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    Why not ... get robbed again this year?! They've already robbed him of the single season sack record:shrug:
     
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  14. BigBensBigBong

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    Tougher question is how the hell did we make the playoffs? LOL.
     
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  15. Lizard72

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    I can forgive the butt fumbled snap one, kind of...

    That one with the penalty called on Cam as he's lunging trying to get to the line and the first down was total BS! How else was he supposed to make contact with him coming through the gap?
     
  16. SteelersFanIrl

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    PFF claim to be objective and base everything on watching every play etc but they try too hard to go against the traditional way of measuring performance to the point where some of their claims are just laughable.

    Their grades are a good baseline for player performance but I certainly wouldn’t be taking anything they say as gospel. They were creaming themselves about the Browns and Ravens all offseason for their team building and analytical approach while slamming the Steelers for taking Najee Harris. We all know what happened once actual football had to be played.
     
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  17. Kreighoff

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    If there is any justice at all TJ wins DPOY GOING AWAY.
     
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  18. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Preach Brother. :thumbs_up:
     
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  19. AskQuestionsLater

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    There is a possibility of T.J. Watt not being the unanimous pick for certain. That said, I seriously doubt he is robbed of it again.
     
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  20. Blast Furnace

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    Steelers have officially asked the league to review the play. Probably nothing changes but worth a shot. Defintiey a sack.

     
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  21. AskQuestionsLater

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    Today is when the league will conclude its investigation. Time to see if T.J. gets it.
     
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  22. steelpens

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    Total blasphemy of he doesn't. He drives the Steelers D
     
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  23. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    The NFL denied the Steelers appeal for TJ's extra sack against the Ravens.
     
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  24. santeesteel

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    Shenanigans!
     
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  25. FosterMorris

    FosterMorris Well-Known Member

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    It's because of PFF's fascination with "pressures."

    "Pressures" is a totally subjective stat. A sack or QB hit either did or did not happen.

    Whether a QB "felt" pressure only the QB really knows or if the pressure affected the throw.

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    PFF says QBs are "pressured" on roughly 40% of their throws! 40%! If a defender looks at a QB it is a "pressure" I guess :shrug:

    Not only that they have Matt Stafford and Josh Allen as 2 of the worst 6 QBs under pressure. If I'm making a top 5 list of QBs willing to stand in the pocket and take a hit they're both on it.

    Edit: Also how does Garrett have more "pressures" from the blind side? Do QBs even know he is there?
     
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