Timmons Hit on Sanchez

Yep he CLEARLY lower his head right before impact.

Like it or not you cannot do that in the NFL anymore and therefore it was a stupid play even if it did affect Sanchez the rest of the game.

 

if affected sanchez play (and it was) was not stupid at all , i would like another one to palmer next sunday too

 

I agree!!!!!!

 

I'm not going to argue the rules, but how do you reach out with your arms to tackle and not have your head out in front? Should they just drop kick the quarterback?

 

He lowered his head. You can have your head out front and keep in up. He hit Sanchez with the crown of his head.

 

i agree. LT did nothing dirty on that play and by the rules interpretation by the officials , they are to determine if that helmet to helmet was just part of the continuation of the play. he wasen't targeting the head at all. i thought it was a bad call.

 

he lead with his shoulder. Sanchez's momentum and his slight head duck caused it to be a helmet to helmet hit.

one week Timmons is being crushed for not being physical enough. the next hes being crushed for being to physical and dont try and make the arguement that you want him to be physical without taking penalties. sure, in a perfect world al hits by Steeler defenders would go un penalized, but in the new NFL, any big hit especially on a qb is going to be flagged.

 

We are expecting these players to do things in split seconds. If Sanchez ducks, what is Timmons supposed to do? This is getting ridiculous. And I agree with you, also, that he definitely puts his hands out prior to the hit.

 

he was going at his mid section/chest area with his shoulder. that is the only area he's allowed to hit a qb. you can't go low and you can't go high. if sanchez doesn't come down into him it's a perfect hit. :matrix:

 

First, if you watch the play from a different angle, you can see that as Sanchez was going to throw Timmons was already lunging, so the hit wasn't late.

Second, he got penalized due to helmet to helmet nothing more. I don't think he was aiming for the helmet, but when Sanchez let up....that is where he connected.

Third, it is pretty sad that had that been a RB who kept moving forward and got hit the same way it wouldn't have been a penalty, but the QB it is. Makes adaptation pretty tough.

 

Some things just cant be avoided. I for one loved the hit. Yes i know it was a 15 yard penalty, but sometimes ill take that penalty if it means showing them your not playing around. 15 yards is nothing compared to getting in the QB's head and having him think about it the rest of the game!

 

I don't know man...I still say Timmons started the tackle before Sanchez got rid of the ball and you can also see he tried to move his head as far left as possible. This was unavoidable in every way except for Sanchez not ducking down into it.
In that position does the not leading with the crown of your head mean he was somehow supposed to have his head up more and lead with his face? That would have put he head even more in the direct path of Sanchez and seems like a major injury risk to him.
Pansy BS. I love the hit and love that it was on that douchebag Sanchez.

 

Is it possible the refs blew the call? Sure looked like he lead with his shoulder to me.

 

No, it's not possible. It's clear as day that it was helmet to helmet. Doesn't matter what part of his body he led with, you cannot hit the helmet of a QB, no exceptions.

 

I think this H2H rule is being over interpreted by REFS: The intent of the rule was to stop tacklers from leading with the crown of their helmet, in this case Timmons wasnt leading with the crown and obviously had the crown of his helmet turned away from sanchez, this is a clear case of incidental contact, this is getting so out of hand that some refs think any helmet contact is a foul, and further more I saw penalty after penalty for unecessary roughness this week from hard but clean hits all around this league, are they now trying to regulate how hard a player can make a tackle, if it's a clean hit how can they justify penalizing the intensity????

 

http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7j0C ... elmet.html

not according to the rules. shanner and TE it's not as cut and dry as you think.

i still think thats what they wanted to call against clark too. they were to quick to throw that flag and came up with interference on ike instead. everyone saw that wasen't the case either. they had to call something though. that flag came out immediately.

 

Yes. Like I said, Glenn, see your target. If you are looking at what you are tackling, it would mean your facemask would contact the other player, not the top of your helmet. The only thing that LT was seeing on that play was the turf and that is poor form and against the rules. Not only will it draw a penalty and now likely a fine from Rog. But it also sets the tackler up to get severely injured by getting the neck jammed back into the spine and/or a concussion.

 

Since when does intent matter? It was helmet to helmet, penalty, end of story. If you want to argue that intent should be considered, I agree but that's a different discussion. Under the current rules, Timmons hit is a penalty and Rodger is going to make his pocket lighter for it.[/quote:rn4xhzrr]

They can fine Timmons if they want to of course, but in the confines of the H2H rule he didnt lead with the crown of his helmet so how is it a fineable offense, I contend it was incidental contact?????

 

This is also an important paragraph in the penalty phase you left out of your definition:


Helmet to Helmet penalties:
It is worth noting that contact between helmets alone does not mandate a penalty. Often times helmets clash after shoulder pads collide. These collisions are expected and remain part of the violent nature of the game. Instead, the penalties in place are meant to prohibit contact initiated with helmets.

Read more: NFL Rules & Regulations for Helmet to Helmet | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_6729939_nfl-ru ... z26qOS81YS

 

I honestly don't know how anyone can watch that YouTube clip and not see Timmons lower his head just before impact. Starting at :50 it's as plain as day.