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This team hasn't improved at all from last year.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Brews Crew, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. Brews Crew

    Brews Crew Well-Known Member

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    I know that we have injured players, we had them last year too but I see no improvement in this so far over last year. They still can't block. Still too many penalties. I think the guard has changed in the AFC North and it going to belong to the Bengals.

    At this point, we are drafting in the top 5 but that won't matter because I still don't think Tomlin can judge talent.
     
  2. santeesteel

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    Jarvis Jones?
     
  3. ThrowToHeath

    ThrowToHeath Well-Known Member

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    Everyone already knew Jones was a great talent. It didn't take much to see that. Now..finding players of equal or more talent in the later rounds have eluded the Steelers for the past several years.
     
  4. Brews Crew

    Brews Crew Well-Known Member

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    It's early so I'll hold judgment on Jones. I am looking at the overall team and they just don't have the horses or coaches and Haley is pathetic.
     
  5. Da Stellars

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    Something is wrong with our front 3 D-linemen? They are not that stout? Do we need to call Casey?

    I'm scared because even out rookie RB is going to need some good blocking, and he isn't going to get it?

    I think both safties are a step slow this year. Troy and Clark might both be gone next year.
     
  6. 12to88

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    At this point, I'd tell Bell not to bother and put him on IR.
     
  7. biggbunch68

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    im afraid he is gonna be one of those players thats injury prone
     
  8. HinesWardHOF

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    IMPROVEMENT? watta you talkin about? IMPROVEMENT? are you kidding? IMPROVEMENT ? we are worse this year than last.. far worse and yes we miss wallace that opened the other receivers.. the D has no reason to play deep

    HINES
     
  9. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    Sorry. I can't help myself. :(
     
  10. steelers5859

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    Actually i think we've got worst.
     
  11. freakfontana

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    without heath miller this offense is worth 50%less , the defense is old ,jones has potential but is a rookie learning , worild hood are busted picks and there you have the downgrading every year
     
  12. DSteelerCT

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    Eifert was more of a need than Jones. The NFL is all about offense and having multiple weapons. We're losing more weapons rather than gaining.
     
  13. PWP

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    I see 3 huge problems,#1 is Gilbert is terrible he has no bus on a NFL field ,once he is off our Team he will be out of the NFL...

    #2 Ben can't throw guys open even when he connects he doesn't do it where the Receiver can keep running...

    #3 We have no help at the TE position they can't run block or pass block either....
     
  14. freakfontana

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    tomlin is setting the bar to low for my standards
     
  15. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    I think there should be much more heat on Haley than Tomlin right now. Haley acquired an explosive offence. He has turned it into one of the worst in the league.
     
  16. FeartheBeard

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    :lolol:
    This is hilarious!!
     
  17. Wreck

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    Our defense rocked it's socks off considering it had to handle 90 plays vs our offense running not even half of that.

    Troy was beasting it out as best he could.

    Now fix the offense and we'd be on a run.
     
  18. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    The offense looks the worst I can ever recall seeing, just horrible. I tend to think you are right but we have no TE and no RB right now, I think things would look a lot better with Bell and Heath in there.
     
  19. shaner82

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    We haven't improved since Tomlin took over. Tomlin took over a championship caliber team and he maintained that quality for a little while. Then some players started leaving and the team slowly got worse. Then more players left and the team continued to get worse. Now the team is in disarray and Tomlin has no idea how to fix it.

    Give Tomin a championship caliber team and he may very well win the Superbowl. Give him a rebuilding team and it will suck forever. The guy doesn't know what he's doing. It's time to make some changes. If it means we have to fire Haley first, then fine, lets do it. Fire him right now and then when we continue to suck, maybe the masses will realize Tomlin is the problem.

    I've been saying for years now that Tomlin was not a good coach. Everyone bashed me, but I've seen this coming for a while now. A coach needs to be able to improve the team, Tomlin cannot do that.
     
  20. shaner82

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    No doubt Heath and Wallace leave a hole on our offence, but the Pats lost Gronk, Hernandez, Welker and Amendola. They are using a utility player in Edelman as their #1 WR and an UDFA in Thompkins as their #2 WR. While they're not lighting up score sheets right now, they are 2-0, and they played a very good defence in the Jets.

    We have Brown, Sanders, Wheaton and Cotch. We have more than enough receivers to get the job done. We have problems that aren't going to be solved by Miller coming back
     
  21. DSteelerCT

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    Haley has created an offense with structure and a short passing game, to protect Ben at the wishes of the Rooney's. The problem is, Ben is not the type of QB to run this O. So, either we have an OC put in a game plan that our QB is not at his best, or we let him run around, get knocked around, while creating some crazy plays.
     
  22. Diamond

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    What is Bell going to do without running lanes, don't pin any high hopes on Bell? Heath will need two games to get the rust off, and if they start him too early he can easily get re-injured, they are looking for excuses when they say Heath will make this offense click, there's too many other leaks to think Heath is going to make this offense productive at a high level on his own, getting Heath back is a plus but don't expect him to be a miracle man, he will spend 90% of his playing time blocking, not scoring points.....
     
  23. lovembig

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    you sure are resting a lot of hope on Miller and a rb that has a total of 4 NFL carries.

    i love Miller, but his return isnt going to turn this offense around and Bell MIGHT be good, but behind this line it wont matter.

    this offense has no play makers. but atleast Haley and Tomlin are sticking with whats NOT working. theres no since in playing Wheaton or Moye. those guys might actually make a difference. heck we saw Moye make a difference last night and then i believe Haley took his helmet away from him so he couldnt play any more.
     
  24. Blast Furnace

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    The Pats have looked awful, Bradey had one of his worst games ever because he had no one to throw to and they dropped everything. They are 2-0 but it's a lucky 2-0, Jets and Buffalo both had them.

    It's not just Heaths catching abilities, he can block too, we'd look much better with him in there.
     
  25. shaner82

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    Not feeling too hopeful at this point as I can't see one player making that big of a difference, but I hope you're right.
     

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