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This soap opera could end up as a shotgun marriage…

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Quadrupleyoi, Mar 13, 2025 at 10:15 AM.

  1. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    That was 15 years ago. Rodgers is not that player any more. He isn't even close to being that player now. At this point, Darnold is better. Yes, he fell apart under immense pressure in those last two games, as pretty much every quarterback does under that much pressure.
     
  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    And when you factor in everything, Rodgers is clearly the option the Steeles prefer.

    They’d rather that than a guy they don’t know if he was a flash in the pan and cost 3 years and 100 million dollars.

    Now if the Steelers pay Rodgers some ridiculous contract then they are crazy. According to Tone from Pats show, those numbers aren’t close, though.
     
  3. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Well, Rodgers wasn't better than Wilson last season. Wilson won games, Rodgers put up garbage time stats and he can't move in the pocket.
     
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  4. jasper04

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    I don't believe Dart is getting past Cleveland, And the Giants that have the first two picks in the 2nd.
     
  5. 86WardsWay

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    Our other option is 5-12 and a better draft pick. I seem to be more open to that thought at this point. Steelers are a dumpster fire and MT is holding a gas can.
     
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  6. Formerscribe

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    Do you think the Browns are taking Dart with the No. 2 overall pick? His stock has gone up, but that would be an insane reach.
     
  7. HeinzMustard

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    Browns did it before with Johnny Football.
     
  8. SteelLion69

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    You are right. I don't want Rogers, but he is better than Wilson. Rogers still can throw the ball and read a defense, despite his age and being an immobile statue.

    I don't see either making it through a season. Maybe they can bring Mason back or find someone serviceable.***

    ** Looks like that is happening.

    The Steelers' 2025 offseason was always about which wad of QB gum they wanted to plug the hole in their leaking offense boat. This team won't be a contender until we find a long-term QB in the draft in 2025 or 2026.

    The DJ Metcaff trade might not pay dividends this year, but having him for a rookie QB will pay off.
     
  9. Karl

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    Yeah, they could have traded for Nix. He looks like sure fire thing. (I'm a little concerned if scouting didn't see this)
    Milton would be a project. If you kept Wilson, at least you have a backup. If you kept Fields, you still had a backup plan.
    I'm not promoting Milton as the next big thing... but more of 'you're doing something' rolling the dice.

    I'm not at all enamored with Omar's dealings.
    I am also very aware that it could be possible there is interference.
    But as it is, he is a weaker GM at the very least. That is, unless he pulls off some hail mary fireworks soon.
     
  10. Formerscribe

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    They took Manziel with the 22nd pick in the first round, not No. 2 overall. That is a very big difference. I wouldn't be nearly as critical of a team taking Dart near the end of the first round. Also, that was a different general manager and coach.
     
  11. woofermazing

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    If it's not Rodgers, at least Mason has a skill set that fits what Arthur Smith wants to do, vs working around Wilson's limitations.
     
  12. Lambert

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    I don't know, Mash. Certainly doesn't feel like any of these guys were/are the answer. Maybe Darnold, maybe Fields if he's capable of another level. I suppose Aaron could win one. It's QB purgatory right now.
     
  13. Lambert

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    Yeah, at this point we're screwed. No doubt.
     
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  14. Formerscribe

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    I'm not sure Nix looked like a sure-fire thing. If you wrote that here before that draft, congrats, but I don't remember people pushing for the Steelers to take him. If anything, I saw the opposite, people thinking he would be another Pickett because he was another quarterback who took a long time to emerge in college.
     
  15. Mashburn

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    I'm not impressed with anyone as well. I'm neutral to all of them. I'm not even a fan of the draft qbs this year.
     
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  16. Lambert

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    Yeah, and it's the last part that worries me. Is Dart really this high level QB prospect or is he just (outside of Ward) the best of a mediocre bunch like KP? Kid has some nice physical skills but made several really poor decisions last year. Grabbing Howard or similar in the middle rounds is fine (and he's probably going in Rd.2) but I'm worried about a Rd.1 QB not working out again. If they do that, they absolutely need to get it right this time. It's why that Metcalf trade, and subsequent ignoring of FA, bothered me; they can't really think the desperately needed DL and CB upgrades are coming from the 3rd and 4th rounds.
     
  17. HeinzMustard

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    I don't care who the QB is either. This upcoming season is pretty much doomed anyway and it's time for a rebuild and hopefully a coaching exodus from the top down in 2026.
     
  18. rmorphy

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    The way they've handled the QB situation, really since Ben's last years, not having a viable QB plan, is just ridiculous. That alone should be enough to get Tomlin fired, maybe Khan too.
     
  19. Jball

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    I agree, Wilson, Rodgers, who gives a s***? They're aren't winning the SB with these guys. Looks like they've finally painted themselves into a corner. Plus, the AFC is going to be a nightmare with the Chiefs, Bills, and Ravens. Now Denver and Hou are coming on strong cause they have real QB's. Chargers are loading up, they have Najee Harris now ffs. They're a WR away from being scary.

    The QB situation is the NUMBER ONE priority. They have to draft one, cause there's none left anywhere else. It seems like even the most 'win at all cost' guys are seeing that maybe punting this year could be a good idea. Once you get past this desperate hubris, and look at what's actually best moving forward, decisions become easier. Just keep building the team, roll over some cap, draft a project QB(I think all of them are projects except maybe Ward), trade off George and get your second back. Make a strong team, so maybe you can hit the ground running when you get your QB.

    @steelersrule6@steelersrule6 I'm expecting your "disagree" soon. :lolol:
     
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  20. HeinzMustard

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    For '25 draft.... Steelers shouldn't bother with QB until round 4 or later. Too many holes on DL, OL and secondary. Plus a RB needs to be drafted sometime in day 2 or day 3.

    I'm all for drafting a QB every year until we hit on one... but this is not the year to waste a 1st round pick on a QB. This is a poor QB draft class like '22.
     
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  21. Thor

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    I don't want a part of any QB in the first this year (Ward if he fell, but keeping it real). The knock on Dart is the system Kifflin runs. It's primarily a one-read passing attack. Dart executed it very well, but it doesn't translate to what an NFL QB has to do. He may turn out, but most analysts say trying to start him anytime soon is setting him up to fail.

    They've all got their flaws, but I've started to lean toward the Ewers and Shoughs because of their arm talent and experience running an offense. With as unstable as our QB situation is at the moment, I'd rather have someone that can step in if needed. I like Dart, too, but it looks like he'll be gone early in the second and I'm not spending that kind of capital on him, especially with the other holes the team has.
     
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  22. HeinzMustard

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    Tank for the ARCH! :rawk:
     
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  23. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    It’s a tough situation for sure because what if the guy you pass on in the first turns out to be the guy? Not many people thought Nix would play as well as he did outside of Denver. They aren’t regretting taking him in the first.

    Most QB are misses though so grabbing a DL in the first would be the prudent move. Going to be interesting to see how they approach this draft.
     
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  24. Trafalgar

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    Flip flopping around with Fields and Wilson was a really dumb idea.
     
  25. Lambert

    Lambert Well-Known Member

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    Very. They have 3 massive needs and 1 high pick.
     
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