This needs to be dicussed

And to add to the post above ,,it is also good to run the plays you practice from time to time....Players will stop working hard on trick plays if they feel they will never be run in the game....The ST'S where having a great night so it seemed like a good time to run a trick play that fit the Situation.....

Again I don't fault the Staff for the call even though I prefer the Redman power call.....Had we kicked the FG and lost the game then I would have been really upset....

 

I thought it was gutsy and showed faith in the defense to pick up Tomlin or whomever made the call in the end. The psychological effects don't show, except that the defense stepped up to the challenge. While it may have seemed stupid in hindsight because it did not work, I think that the effects of the play will be felt for several weeks.

 

Now that it has been discussed. What do you think you are going to do about it.

 

I'm gonna stuff it in my memory bank along with my 14 million other plays that are up there and when I see the situation again I will be screaming to run the ball right up the gut with the 5.4 yard average guy and an OL that is finally performing well enough to get those tough yards.
I was yelling for them to go for it from the get go as the GMen were not stopping the run all game long but once they lined up for the FG I was ok with that too since it would have tied the game up.
When they got cute I just had to sit there and shake my head at another bone headed decision.
Thank god they won or else it would be a very long week going into the next game.

 

My wife yelled the same thing. "IF YOU'RE GONNA RISK LOSING THE BALL ON 4TH, THEN LET BEN MAKE THE PLAY, NOT THE KICKER."

 

I hated the play myself (simply because it didn't work) but I wouldn't cal it stupid. If we line up and try and run the ball in EVERYONE knows it's coming. If we line up to kick the FG it wouldn't be too far fetched to assume (yes I know what that word means :roll: ) that EVERYONE knows we are going to kick the ball. There was a good chance we fool them and the play works. TBH it was executed correctly, it just so happens the giants had a man there to make the play. It kinda looked to me that Miller missed a blocking assignment there, but i'd have to see the replay more.

Now personally I would have went with a run there. But if that play works, holly hell, Tomlin would have been hailed a genius by most here.

 

It was a gutsy call but there was no blockers on that side but maybe Heath.

 

Yeah, all i saw was Heath too and i'm thinking he was suppose to make a chip block before moving to the next guy and he missed it. But i'm not too sure how effective a chip block would have been regardless so.......

 

Yep....the flip from Butler was amazing lol...I have no idea how he even got it to Suisham.

 

years ago i remember kris brown running it in for a touchdown from around the thirty on the same play only to the left. i will say i understand not going for it when they had just done that in the same game(everyone now expects the play and the defense will want to make amends especially on the goal line). even understand using some sort of trick play or fake, but that was terrible. suisham never needs to be running with the ball for any reason.

 

Please don't EVER mention him again. Please!! raying: That's one guy I could not stand to have on the roster!

 

sorry, that game was painful to watch

 

We were a house divided on running redman or kick and tie....but even if you do fake or when you fake let's throw the damn ball.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIYUqH313GA
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It was supposed to look like this
I would have kicked a FG too,but the resulting defensive stand gave them the field position needed to get the TD

 

It's funny my wife said they should go for it. I said no just kick it and tie it. Then I said well maybe the will try the fake field goal. Then they tried the fake, I would have had Suisham try to throw it to a TE for a touchdown, he isn't much of a runner. LOL, at least it didn't cost them.

 

I sent a text message to three other Steelers fans. And I was saying the same thing. The Giants D was all but helpless against Redman. A 1 yd run was a guaranteed 1st down. *sigh*

 

I think a number of factors were at play, one was the Giants weren't doing much offensively and the other thing was on every kick off the Giants were at the 30 yard line and there looked to be enough holes that 1 more missed tackle could have led to a big run back possibly a special teams TD. I didn't like the call but when you think about all the tangibles it wasn't too bad and that is because it worked like it was supposed to.

 

Yes, every coach makes bad decisions. But I agree that all people seem to notice are Tomlin's bad decisions.

 

very dumb call. at a very bad time. we had the momentum. we didn't need the trickeration at the time. we were gouging the defense with will johnson leading the way. he is a beast. (good find MT.) that was working everytime we ran it. no way we shouldn't have gone for the first, and right after the measurement. he took that momentum and gave it back to them. thankfully our D was playing very good.

 

I thought we had just lost the game. Take the 3 and tie it up. I just had a feeling that they would walk down the field and eat up the clock. Major props to the D for getting a 3 and out and getting the ball back.

 

Like others on the site, I watched that fake in a bit of disbelief given the game situation. Not like situational play-calling has ever been a real strong suit, but a 22 yard-field goal rarely gets blocked and there is too much congestion near the goal line as somebody else said. I like the fact that we will take risks from time to time even if they don't work out, but I thought the timing would have been bad, even if it had been successful (of course, had it been successful, I'd have still been waving my terrible towel in triumph).

So, to me....there's only one way to erase this play from the minds of Steeler Nation. Next time we're down close like that in a 4th down, we line up to go for it, snap back to Ben and have him drop kick it through the uprights. The defense would NEVER see that one coming!!!!!

BRING ON THE CHEFS (great googly-moogly)....

 

I was listening to Josh Miller on 93.7 The Fan. Josh seems to think the fake was simply called at the wrong spot on the field. According to him, teams generally concede short field goal attempts like the one the Steeler lined up for. The ends look for the fake, rather than attempt to block a kick that everyone assumes the kicker will make. Makes sense.