The Walking Dead (no comics spoilers)

I've been quiet all week because I knew it would end with a cut to black and no resolution. I was hoping beyond hope that it was a false spoiler, but I knew.

I don't even know if I can get my thoughts out without breaking every single forum rule...

Seriously, if ever there was a time for profanity, it's now. But I'll try my best to censor myself.

Scott M. Gimple, that pencil necked little dweeb, is so full of himself. He should be not so tenderly made love to with Lucille, and then have his head bashed in by her. Fire this hack, NOW! 3 episodes of Glenn under a dumpster and now this?!?! And they try to justify it as being some great piece of story telling that will pay off. @#$! off! It's NOT a proper cliffhanger. Those are where you place a character in peril and leave his/her fate in doubt. There's ZERO doubt here!!! Someone died. Horribly. To not reveal who is a total dick move. Had Negan ended on "Moe" and then they faded to black? Ok, fair play. Nice cliffhanger. Not this. I know it's a subtle difference, but it's there.

And in the day and age of social media, fan stalking, instant spoilers, etc., how the hell do they expect to keep the victim secret for long anyway?!?! They start filming in July. People will KNOW who didn't show up to work.

And stop with all of the "Who shot J.R?" comparisons. It's not even apples and oranges. It's apples and hand grenades! (I forget where that line came from. Anyone?)

And you just KNOW how this will go next season:

Episodes 1 and 2 will be back story for Negan. Episode 3 will be a Carol and Morgan at the Kingdom episode. (The Kingdom is another community. They're known for wearing armor and riding horses... among other things. Oops. Spoiler alert). Episode 4 will be all about Enid trapped in a closet. Episode 5 will be Father Gabriel and Alexandria's intrigue (or lack thereof). Finally, around episode 6 or 7, they'll reveal who died.

I half suspect they kept it up in the air because certain actors' contracts are up for negotiation, so they haven't decided yet. Still a garbage stunt.

Negan was great. It's a shame they couldn't put him in his full glory. (Seriously? "Pegged?" "Pee pee pants???") But he's great either way. I just wonder if I'll care enough to bother watching more of him. I'm tired of TWD's cheap tricks.

I hope every time Gimple gets, ummmm, intimate in the future, right before he "arrives," he gets kicked in the nuts.

(Yes. I know who the victim is in the comics. It SHOULD be who it is in the show too. But that doesn't change my opinion)

In short, here's my thoughts on tonight:

 

You know, it hadnt really bothered me that much how they ended it until reading your rant

That was a dick move.

You're clearly underestimating Negan if you don't think he would kill a kid. But, I don't think its him either. I think you can rule out Glenn, Carl, Michone, Rick and Maggie because no way any of them is killed while their lover/father/son sit by quietly. Don't care about Negans warning, wouldnt happen.

Yep, I got that sense too.

 

I'm not sure how I feel about this episode. Honestly, the cliffhanger was the least of my complaints. I had a real hard time swallowing the massive roadblocks and all-knowing omnipotence of the Saviors. That, joined by the 2:1 commercial ratio and Carol/Morgan segments left me wondering what else was on a couple times.

They should be punished. Saying it was excessive would be putting it mildly. Whorish would be putting it mildly. And they wonder why people torrent.

This was great, Ray.

I read a couple comments earlier in the week where I thought the posters were just speculating. I thought, "yup, that's probably how it will go down...". I didn't realize that was a spoiler.

Yeah, I'm not sure how they'd go about it. Every other word in the comics starts with F. The pee pee pants is straight out of the comics, though.



Not getting spoilery here, but that whole scene minus the words they can't use on AMC is pretty much line for line out of the comics for anyone wondering.



Negan's honestly one of my favorite characters. I like him better than Rick in the comics (TV Rick is way more likable than comics Rick imo). I'm not sure what that says about me...

Like Chris Hardwick said on Talking Dead- he's charismatic.

I don't think I can give my thoughts on who got the kiss from Lucille without getting into spoilers.

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I think it was Glenn. I think they ended it the way they did, because they knew so many fans knew what was coming. Leaving it on that kind of cliffhanger was their way of making a cliffhanger out of something that normally wouldn't be cliffhanger worthy. Mainly I mean that it's hard to go anywhere on the internet without reading a comic spoiler about this, so perhaps their intent was 'hey- maybe we didn't follow the comics. Maybe the Glenn dumpster "death" was our way of paying homage to the comics and he'll live happily ever after. After all, we haven't strictly followed the comics throughout'. Just a thought.

 

ARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!

That's my take on last night's episode.

AMC... (For many reasons others have stated)

 

With all of his other colorful language, I'd honestly forgot about that.

There's already a fan movement to SPOIL who died as soon as it's learned in every site, comment section, social media, etc. This was not fair play and people are ticked off.

As someone else said, they had their own Red Wedding moment, and completely screwed it up.

 

Yikes. Apparently the complete audio from that scene has been leaked, including a minute or so after the cliffhanger. I don't normally partake in spoilers, but I couldn't resist when my wife forwarded this to me. I wouldn't post a link here, but if someone really wanted it, I wouldn't tell them no in a pm.

 

I run away from spoilers like the black plague, so unless its posted in here, I won't find out who it is until the season starts.

The Saviors have an army, not sure how they will beat that, I think Rick and company are going to be serving under them for a while until they can figure it out. Maybe it is as simple as cutting the head off of the snake or maybe a massive zombie heard. I'm guessing the armored guys who meet up with Morgan will tie into it somehow.

And while I am leaning towards Aaron as the one who met Lucile, I'm fearful its Daryl. Which, I think would be a big mistake but, shows have killed off very popular characters before and survived, so who knows.

 

That leaked a week ago. I call it the audio Rorschach Test. People hear what they want to hear.

If people think (or want) it to be Daryl, they hear a clue or 3 that makes them think so. Ditto for the other characters.

BUT...

It can only be one of the following 4: Eugene, Abraham, Daryl or Glenn.

Negan clearly says "He's taking it like a champ," after the first hit. So it's not a woman. Negan likes his "wives," so he's not going to waste a perfectly good candidate on setting an example.

After he picks, and they start to protest, he says "If anyone moves, take the kid's other eye and feed it to his father." So not Rick or Carl. But he ALSO kind of points/gestures at Rick and Carl. Carl far to his right, and Rick slightly to his right.

There's only 4 people to the left. The 4 I named.

Gimple and Kirkman both said the character is one "beloved by the whole group." Abraham gets under some people's skin. Eugene definitely does. That only leaves Daryl or Glenn.

Again, it's an audio Rorschach Test, but

Spoiler

I'm pretty sure I hear Maggie screaming...

 

Really Bleed? Who were you expecting to step out of that trailer, Jason Vorhese?

I don't know, being held captive and helpless while watching someone you love get their head bashed in would seem like a pretty menacing situation to find yourself in.

Of course they are going to want to seek revenge, but they aren't going to be in a position to do so, for the time being anyway. Knowing that any attempt to do so will likely get more people killed, probably somebody you love. Negans group is too big, I honestly don't know how they will get out of this. Maybe unite all 3 groups, Alexandria, Hilltop and this new group all mount a coordinated attack, maybe they would have enough manpower then.

As for killing Rick, leaving someone like him alive is much more punishment then killing him. And that's what Negan wants, wants to punish Rick for killing members of his group. Negan thinks he is too strong for Rick to ever do anything about it. Arrogance can be a fatal flaw, look where it got Rick and his group, they were so smug that theyd just go kill the Saviors, that worked out real well for them.

I don't think Id classify killing off a character as popular as Daryl as having no balls.

You left off Aaron? Any thoughts on why it may or may not be him?

 

I forgot he was there?

 

Ditto as in you'd like a pm?