The Steelers second round target?

Steel_Elvis · Mar 11, 2017

turtle said: ↑

I would be pissed if they took Willis in the second. I just don't see it on film. He has straight line speed and that's cool but that's not what he's doing on the field at his position. I will have to watch some more but there are soooo many other guys I would target in the 2nd, he's not even close at this point.

I would take Tyus Bowser in a heartbeat if he's there in the 2nd
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There's definitely something to Bowser. The thing is, I'm not yet sure whether he will be best as a edge guy, or as a pure LB. There's just not enough tape out there that I could find. I found 2 games - Memphis 2016 & Vandy 2015, plus some highlights. I even looked for games of offensive players who played against Houston, and didn't find much.

turtle · Mar 12, 2017

Steel_Elvis said: ↑

There's definitely something to Bowser. The thing is, I'm not yet sure whether he will be best as a edge guy, or as a pure LB. There's just not enough tape out there that I could find. I found 2 games - Memphis 2016 & Vandy 2015, plus some highlights. I even looked for games of offensive players who played against Houston, and didn't find much.
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http://draftbreakdown.com/video/steven-taylor-vs-oklahoma-2016/

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/steven-taylor-vs-cincinnati-2016/

saw him when watching Elandon Roberts last year and Steven Taylor is a guy I liked last year who is coming out in this years draft and is a good prospect in his own right. Noticed Taylor too when watching Roberts. Bowser is #81 seems to like the one white sleeve, one no sleeve look lol

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/elandon-roberts-vs-navy-2015/

one game from 2015

Steel_Elvis · Mar 14, 2017

turtle said: ↑

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/steven-taylor-vs-oklahoma-2016/

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/steven-taylor-vs-cincinnati-2016/

saw him when watching Elandon Roberts last year and Steven Taylor is a guy I liked last year who is coming out in this years draft and is a good prospect in his own right. Noticed Taylor too when watching Roberts. Bowser is #81 seems to like the one white sleeve, one no sleeve look lol

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/elandon-roberts-vs-navy-2015/

one game from 2015
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Thanks for the links Turtle. I hand't really thought about watching tapes from other Houston defenders because I didn't expect there to be much. Taylor is not a guy who was on my radar, but maybe he should be. Anyway, Bowser is a tough read. I occasionally see flashes of the pass rush ability, but they are infrequent. On the two 2016 tapes of Taylor, Bowser dropped in coverage most of the time, and looked pretty good doing it. The Div 1A basketball experience shows. You'll sometimes see him mirroring guys the same way he would in man to man defense on a basketball court. It's funny - watching him is the opposite of watching most 3-4 OLB prospects. Usually you're watching college 4-3 DEs, and have to look at overall agility and lateral movement to project whether they can drop without being complete liabilities. With Bowser, his coverage skills are advanced compared to other edge rushing prospects. I still wonder if his best position in the NFL isn't a Sam backer in a 4-3.

SteelCity_NB · Mar 23, 2017

I gotta say that my favorite second round target is TE Adam Shaheen.

I know we need an OLB and DB early, but if Shaheen is there in round 2, I'm all over. For a man his size, he can move. Good hands room. I know the blocking can be improved but I would love to see him in the B&G.

coldrolled · Mar 23, 2017

SteelCity_NB said: ↑

I gotta say that my favorite second round target is TE Adam Shaheen.

I know we need an OLB and DB early, but if Shaheen is there in round 2, I'm all over. For a man his size, he can move. Good hands room. I know the blocking can be improved but I would love to see him in the B&G.
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he is a junior... steelers love their juniors.

Emperor Lebaeu · Mar 25, 2017

RD 1 Watt
RD2 S. Jones OR Nicholson

SteelCity_NB · Mar 25, 2017

If Sidney Jones could be had at #62, that would be fantastic.

cajunyankee · Mar 25, 2017

Rd. 2 Pick I'd love Desmond King. What we need is a slot corner and thats Desmond. He could transition to safety ( per Mayock ) but I'd keep him in the slot, upgrade Gay, then Move Gay to Safety as a veteran Back-up and cut Golden.

Cajun

cajunyankee · Mar 25, 2017

SteelCity_NB said: ↑

If Sidney Jones could be had at #62, that would be fantastic.
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No denying his great talent but that achilles injury could be troubling. I'd wait to our 3rd rd comp..... He's gone for this year and that injury could ( or could not ) have lasting ramifications due to the requirements of the CB position.

Cajun

AskQuestionsLater · Mar 25, 2017

Steel_Elvis said: ↑

Thanks for the links Turtle. I hand't really thought about watching tapes from other Houston defenders because I didn't expect there to be much. Taylor is not a guy who was on my radar, but maybe he should be. Anyway, Bowser is a tough read. I occasionally see flashes of the pass rush ability, but they are infrequent. On the two 2016 tapes of Taylor, Bowser dropped in coverage most of the time, and looked pretty good doing it. The Div 1A basketball experience shows. You'll sometimes see him mirroring guys the same way he would in man to man defense on a basketball court. It's funny - watching him is the opposite of watching most 3-4 OLB prospects. Usually you're watching college 4-3 DEs, and have to look at overall agility and lateral movement to project whether they can drop without being complete liabilities. With Bowser, his coverage skills are advanced compared to other edge rushing prospects. I still wonder if his best position in the NFL isn't a Sam backer in a 4-3.
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Same.

Tyus Bowser definitley is not easy for one to place as an edge rusher.

He can set the edge well and drop in space. It is his raw ability in pass rushing that will have some wondering though. I understand many 3-4 teams ask their 'backers to do quite a bit but more often than not they simply pin their ears to get after it; something even a second round selection for the Steelers is quite skeptical.

If anything, a better question could be how often would he be used on the edges and in the inside? He is athletic enough to rush the quarterback but good enough to drop in space.

AskQuestionsLater · Mar 25, 2017

SteelCity_NB said: ↑

If Sidney Jones could be had at #62, that would be fantastic.
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I surmise the Eagles would nab him by that point though.

Philidelphia has their guy (at least after one season) in Carson Wentz. Building for the future allows Jones to take a back seat to learn the nuances of the position without having eithet side endanger his development by pressing him too early either physically or mentally.

Again though... this is assuming that Philly does not select a corner in round one.

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