The Steelers and tight end Darnell Washington have reached agreement on a four-year, $42M extension

Justin Fields has a 16 -36 record, yet He was 4- 2 here. Was he better for just his time here, or was it because he was on a better team with coaching that knew how to win with him?
It's the same for Sam Darnold.
You brought up his record, and yet right after one of those seasons his team didn't want to keep him.
Again the man had 25 tds overall, 14 ints, and 11 fumbles in today's NFL.

 

See? That wasn't so hard. Now you are participating in a conversation rather than insisting that we all recall something you posted months or years ago.

For me....I am not sold that Emmanwori and, say, Joey Bosa makes the 2025-26 Steelers better. Mostly because I am not sold that Herbig is a starting OLB but that is another discussion entirely.

However, I can see your thinking. For whatever the reason, the Steelers made a bet that Thornhill and Chuck Clark could still play meaningful football. I have NO idea why they thought that....but it was really a significant player evaluation failure.

 

No, it isn't the same with Darnold. He has developed into a much better player than he was when he played for the Jets and Panthers. Fields was mostly the same flawed player when he started for the Steelers, but had a coaching staff that masked those flaws to some extent.

 

I am unsure if that was simply poor writing on your part or you actually meant to be condescending in your first paragraph. If it was the former, do better. If it was the latter, you have no business being condescending just because you didn't bother to keep up with the previous iterations of this conversation. If you wanted more detail, it was on you to ask for it. Once you did, you quickly received an answer.

I'm far from sold on Herbig. Watt is still the better player, but part of building a roster is knowing when to move on from a player whose declining performance doesn't fit his expanding contract demands. Last offseason was that time with Watt.

I'm glad we agree that trusting Thornill and Clark was a poor decision, but it was one that was rooted in the allocation of resources. If they had more cap room and another high draft pick, they could have applied some aspect of those resources to getting competent play at free safety last season. Instead, we got a scrub that was so bad that they cut him before the season was over. Even if you are unsure on Emmanwori, it is obvious that was much better than anything the Steelers had at safety in 2025.

 

Can't believe you compare a player with 34 games(2 full season) and who is a super bowl champion QB vs only 6 games for Fields

 

You need to move the ball if you want to score TD and sometimes who is the RB at the one yard line who finish the job even if this is the QB who had done much of the work before that....Like DeAngelo Williams was great in 2015 for us,but Roethlisberger was a big reason why Williams had 11 rushing TD that year,the best in the NFL that year....And this is one of the many example

Individual TDs can have many variables

 

And Seattle didn't mask 25 tds, 14 ints, and 11 fumbles ?
Little bit of info.
Seattle was 6th in forced turnovers, but were 16th in turnover ratio because Darnold turned the ball over so much. So much that he again had more turnovers than any Qb in the NFL.

 

UDOUBOO

 

Turnovers is not a big deal when your offense is one of the best in the NFL like the seahawks last season....I prefer that over the sorry offense by the steelers in the last 5 years,who are one of the best team to protect the ball but can't score or move the ball...But,at least the TD-turnovers ratio was great in the last 2 years for the steelers!

 

Dude, myself and others have asked for it on multiple occasions on the several threads you bang on and on about the topic in. Don't pretend that you haven't repeatedly insisted the question was asked and answered and therefore refused to rehash it.

This latest series of back and forth between you and I is a result of just one of the several most recent instances of you claiming there was no point in answering the question because you had at some point in the past. You make repeated strong claims about how you are correct about something (nothing wrong with that we all do it and should continue to do it) and when pressed for details you just waive your hands at some version of how you have already proved your point in detail some other time.

For the Steelers decisions at safety....I agree they have been comically bad recently. Elliot has been a great signing even if injuries stop his Steelers career tomorrow. But Clark, Thornhill, and the various others have just been terrible. The confusing thing was that most NFL watchers could see that those guys were not gonna be any good but the Steelers felt otherwise. Even go back to the Morgan Burnett signing. Or Savage this off-season. They love veteran safeties that most other teams have decided can not run well enough any longer to impact. I have no idea why.

 

Damn some of You will do anything to not be wrong. The next time You go on, and on about Lamar Jackson tds, I'll remind you of this. LoL
Somehow tds only seems to matter when you say they do. LoL.
Let me simplify it for you.
You win games by either scoring points, stopping the other team from scoring, or both.

 

Darnold was a big part of that

 

We are not comparing the Seahawks to the Steelers.
We are comparing Darnold to other Qbs. Please try staying on topic.

 

You should just delete this post

 

Do you know a player can help your team to score a TD even if you are not the one who finish the job at the end?

 

This is just to help you understand my point.

 

Never!

 

Really. LoL.
Some of us actually played football.

 

You don't have a point, You have to change the subject to even be in this.

 

Yeah, compared to those who look at the TD-turnovers ratio and think that's where it ends for a QB

 

You are wrong

 

I noticed you left off how he had more turnovers than any Qb last year, and if His D wasn't so good at forcing turnovers they would have been in trouble.

 

It was asked and answered, but you didn't ask for what player I specifically wanted them to draft with that pick as you just did. The flaw was in your posts, not mine. Of course, It is a dubious exercise at best because so much hindsight is involved.

The Steelers have consistently undervalued some positions. I was hoping they would move past that with Tomlin gone, but they did it again this offseason at safety.

 

LoL. Wow. LoL

 

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