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The Steelers Albatross

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Roonatic, Sep 30, 2021.

Time to vote

Poll closed Feb 27, 2022.
  1. A) Art 2

    22.2%
  2. B) Mikey Popcorn Tomlin

    26.7%
  3. C) Big Limelight Ben

    33.3%
  4. D) Bad Luck

    4.4%
  5. E) other

    13.3%
  1. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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  2. SpeedyMikeWallace

    SpeedyMikeWallace Well-Known Member

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    It all starts at the top, of course. Art II is more like Grandad Rooney before Noll than his dad. He's doesn't seem to have what it takes to win; he's passive, comfortable with mediocrity, and cares more about maintaining a country club atmosphere and being buddy-buddy with everyone than making the tough decisions.

    Then, it's Tomlin. He's a charlatan, as are most motivational speaking, charismatic types. I don't know if he even has a HS level understanding of football strategy, and no one really does because it's not really clear what exactly he does on that side of things. What kind of football does a Mike Tomlin team try to play? What's their basic strategy? What's their style? You can name these about any other good-to-great HC in the history of the league. But Tomlin? It's completely nebulous, as if there's a deliberate obfuscation to the fact that he does nothing. We get glimpses of his lack of knowledge during games and throughout the season. In-game decisions that make little sense. Little to know adjustments made, which results in the consistent falling-apart of the team in the back half of seasons.

    The funny thing about charlatans is, they tend to get away with it because everyone who's duped by them would sooner defend them than admit that they've been duped. Which is why at least 60% of Steelers fans simply refuse to accept criticism of the man.

    Then it's Ben. Ben is washed up, and he hasn't cared enough about himself or the game to continue playing into his 40s. He needed to walk away after his elbow injury, but he came back undoubtedly for the money and his ego.

    A good coach would have told his aging, ineffective QB to get gone. A good owner would have canned his HC after losing to Tim Tebow. Then Blake Bortles. Then getting embarrassed by the Browns. But that didn't happen. It's just mindless extension after extension.

    Luck? The only luck this team has seen is Tomlin being lucky he has one of the best GMs of all time continuously replenishing his roster.
     
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  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    You've turned into Benny, or that Hamburger guy. LoL
     
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  4. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    There’s no selection for “not having cheerleaders”
     
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  5. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    I didn't disrespect our valuable elders. Take part of that back bro.
     
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  6. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Ok...Not the Hamburger Guy.
    Happy???:thumbs_up:
     
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  7. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Above & beyond, well said.
     
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  8. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    rooney rule. too worried about how his families political views look and the families public persona. it does start at the top. :cool:
     
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  9. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    How would that affect the Team Mac???
     
  10. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    it starts and stops with the owner.

    we can end this thread, he is CLEARLY OK with mediocrity and political correctness, over winning. (AKA - ROONEY RULE)
     
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  11. AFan

    AFan Well-Known Member

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  12. SteelerGlenn

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    I think you’re confused on what the Rooney rule is for
     
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  13. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    keeping the coach that would in most cases be fired by any other team at this point. every move he makes is about image and not what is best for a football team to succeed. many of the limited partners have clamored for years that a change was needed. not just fans. :cool:
     
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  14. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Or “no block numbers.”
     
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  15. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    Been saying it for years, if we had them a few board members who went Bengals game would have at least had something pleasant to look at.
     
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  16. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    Injuries could have been a choice. A healthy D would have at least kept us closer.
     
  17. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    I'm distracted by the cheerleaders bottom.
     
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  18. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Bad luck
     
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  19. Mike T

    Mike T Well-Known Member

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    Even when the D is perfectly healthy and playing lights out they get gassed by the end of the game having to constantly go back out after all the short drives the offense throws out there.
     
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  20. Mike T

    Mike T Well-Known Member

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    While i agree Colbert has been a great GM i think he is a shadow of himself at this point with the year to year contracts. I think his heart is not in it as much anymore either.

    Your pretty much spot on about Art. He inherited this team and he just does not have the passion for the team and the game like his family before him. I think it's the path of least resistance for him. We will not see the "steelers way" we are accustomed to any more under him.

    Tomlin is Trash. He has gotten by for a long time on luck and talent that compensated for his complete lack of being good at anything in this game other than being the players friends. Every player talks about how great a coach he is cause he cares about the players and their personal lives and as people. That's great and all but just like Ben when have you ever heard the man talk intelligent X's and O's (Hell when has even talked X's and O's at all). He's great with relationships with players and that would make him a great Counselor but a Coach or anything having to do with true football he doesn't seem to have much if anything to offer. He's really more like a politician. Lots of talk with no substance and tons of misdirection to avoid ever really answering anything.
     
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  21. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Bigbird Ben is running away with this yinzers.
     
  22. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Dig the avatar
     
  23. Lambert

    Lambert Well-Known Member

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    It's the idiot owner. He's the only reason Ben is here... so if you voted for Ben you're really voting for Art.
     
  24. chris2fer

    chris2fer Well-Known Member

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    Chuck Noll said football is you knocking your opponent on his a$$ before he knocks you on yours
     
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  25. bleednblackngold

    bleednblackngold Well-Known Member

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    So, in the origin of this metaphor it seems like they are scapegoating a guy for a problem he didn't really cause. Are you asking what is actually to blame or just who we can pin it on? Ben seems like the guy who is getting scapegoated by a lot of people to me. Tomlin is like the ship's captain who somehow remains blameless. Not that Steeler fans don't blame him, but national media treat him like he's one of the greats.
     
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