The Onside kick

Why would they automatically run 3 times? Bortles was looking like Montana!

 

Jacksonville was going to run it 3 times and kick... they were going to rely on their defense to win the game. We had an awful day defensively, but if you can’t stop 3 runs from gaining 10 yards when the whole world knows they are running, then so be it. We don’t deserve the win.

At the stage of the game in general onside kicks have a 20% success rate. Do you think we have at least a 20% chance to make them punt on 3 runs then score on a 70 yard drive? On a failed kick it takes our chances to zero though. If we kick it deep we still have a shot. If we don’t get the kick we lose. It was dumb. So so so dumb

 

hey I didn't think we had a shot at those 4th and 1 TDs but they got them..I would have taken the 70 yard drive option kicking deep was the better call.

 

Hardly lol he made a few plays but he looked bad throwing the ball downfield most of the game. Anytime we had them in situations where he had to push th ball further than 5-7 yards downfield he proved incapable (minus one deep ball).

They run 3 Times because they think they have the best defense in the league. They will not try to win it on offense and potentially screw themselves over. The take up as much time as they can, and let the defense decide their fate.

 

Because it was the right decision regardless of the past. You have to attempt to make the play that gets your team the ball back the quickest. One first down and the game was over anyway. The penalty hurt the most.

 

We were letting them convert 3rd downs all game. What makes you think anything would have been different? Hope? Faith in your defense that has given up 42 points (at that point)?

 

Well, to be fair, the defense did stop them short on third down. It's not like the Jaguars would have been more likely to throw one if the ball had been deep in their end. No matter where they get the ball, a first down wins it for them.

In hindsight, they probably should have kicked it deep, mostly because I've never seen Boswell properly execute an on-side kick. But I sure can't slam Tomlin for that after thinking it was the right call in the moment.

I am concerned that they seemed unprepared for it. And I stand by what I've been saying for weeks. Tomlin made a huge mistake sitting his starters against the Browns. The Steelers clearly showed the rust in the first quarter today. That is on Tomlin and his staff.

I wish I was wrong, but damn, I wasn't.

 

Yep, this is it for me too.

There are arguments for and against taking the onside kick; I wouldn't have done it, but having thought about it for a bit I can see the reasoning.

But, dang, they have to get better at onside kicks...

 

You're not getting the ball back much quicker because you have 2 TOs and the 2 minute warning but where you are getting the ball back is a big difference. The onside is a low% play and as bad as our D was the chances of stopping them are still greater and the proof is we did....

 

Again, key word ATTEMPT to get the ball back quicker.

Ben threw low % plays on 4th down and worked out. Sometimes you have to take a chance regardless of the %.

I'm not going to go through the possible sequence of events but the onside kick was the right decision. Sorry if you can't understand the reasons why the onside kick was the right decision at that point of the game.

 

There are arguments both ways ,your view isn't gospel,so don't be a snarky douche...

 

It may not be gospel but it was the right decision when weighing all the factors. For example, how can anyone argue the other side with the way the defense played?

 

Please stop making sense

 

Coach T is that you? One can argue because the D did stop them on the drive and forced a FG that I'm pretty sure wouldn't of been attempted from their own 35. But whatever I'm not gonna argue when you are clearly gonna convince yourself that you're right no matter what....

 

My main point is that coach T gave the team two opportunities to get the ball back. One was with the onside kick. The other was by playing defense. It didn't work out for both units. The penalty hurt.

 

Agree to disagree I guess.....it's cool.....tough loss for all of us.

 

Agree they seemed unprepared and showed rust like some of us called it. You got to kick it deep with that much time left. What did I here it was 10 years since we recovered an onside kick that we kicked. The odds were totally against us. This game was on Tomlin and his staff.

 

This is what I was concerned about. ‘‘Tis why I wanted them to kick deep. With 2 timeouts and 2 minute warning, I don’t think they needed to do it. Had there been 1:40 left with one time out, then yes, do it.

 

In the end we didn’t even try lol. No rushing to line, no onside with 1 second lol

 

This was my main point. With the onside kick we had two chances at getting the ball back.

 

So you kick it deep and Jags get 10 yards on offense for first down, game over. Then we will have people questioning why he didn't try an onside kick.

 

True, our defense wasn’t stopping nobody

 

Yeah but some people here can't see the obvious. It's very likely the Jags wouldn't attempt a 47 or 48 yard FG if the don't get a 1st down in that situation. That's why the poor execution and the penalty was huge on the onside kick.

The thing about it is that Fornette gained 9 yards when the Steelers knew they were going to run the ball in that situation. Who knows how the Jags would had played it if the Steelers kicked off.

 

Right, and a normal team that talks about things rather than drawing up plays in the sand just before doing them has the wherewithal to kick an onside 10 yards and discuss the importance of doing so. Expecting we’re talking about things after watching the debacle after the Jesse James overturn against New England is probably a bit much to hope for. If the other team recovers no farther than the 45 (which again is normal for pretty much all onside kicks) and doesn’t gain 10 yards, they won’t be attempting a field goal.....if you are truly THAT BAD at executing the attempt and it’s well known you’re that bad, then yeah an onside was a ridiculous call. Seeing how bad it was makes the hindsight look even better.