The one thing about Tomlin...

Marion Cunningham was an NFL quarterback???!!!

Hey, Blast, I'm just hoping for some more "Happy Days" in the near future!

 

Love this place and I'm very appreciative of TTF.
The problem is half the stuff you guys say about Tomlin just flat out isn't true and the other half well that's been said over and over and over and over again

But hey you're right it is a message board so vent away brother!
Hope I haven't offended you Jack.

 

No offense taken, Glenn. But can you point out anything I've said about Tomlin that isn't true? And Blast mentioned we're in transition and we may be to a degree. But I believe that we have sufficient talent to win now AND a franchise quarterback!!! So, are .500 seasons and continuing deficient play acceptable? I sure hope not! How many times have Belichick's teams been in transition but yet he continues to field a competitive football team year in and year out. He won with Matt Cassell for crying out loud. I'm going to start calling Tomlin "Teflon Tomlin" because no criticism seems to stick where some fans are concerned.

 

How about your comment that Tomlin hasn't produced a winning season with Benat QB? I can think of four seasons.

 

So what they had consecutive 8-8 seasons as they transition, Tomlin still hasn't had a losing season. Having a franchise QB doesn't guarantee wins if the rest of the team isn't good enough, and Ben can be turnover prone at times. I bet you weren't complaining in 2008 after they won the Super Bowl because the team had elite talent.

 

I was comparing the Steelers to those other teams because those are some of the better teams in the league with good defenses, and they have multiple Pro Bowl players on defense. The Steelers don't have any young Pro Bowl players on defense, they have some nice pieces with potential but they aren't there yet that's my point.

 

How about we make this the no spin zone, Glenn. Any reasonable person would realize that I'm referring to the last two non-winning seasons with Ben in his prime. Maybe I should have clarified that for those of you that believe that Tomlin can do no wrong.

 

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I still contend that the Steelers have plenty of talent to win but the leadership isn't there to bring it all together. Please see my post about coaching vs. talent.

 

There are three former head coaches on the staff and you're going to tell me leadership is the problem?
Come on!

 

There you go again, Glenn, spinning it to your benefit! Who is THE LEADER of this football team? Who is responsible for building a cohesive UNIT out of many COMPONENTS? Who is currently NOT GETTING THE JOB DONE??!! Come on now, you can do it. First name starts with M and last name starts with T. Looks like Omar Epps. OBVIOUSLY the answer is M_K_ T_M_ IN. Enough hints???

 

Well if you want to look at it that way then I guess Rooney needs to go because really he's the one in charge of everything right?

 

yeah they surrended tomlin as much is possible .. wonder why ?

 

yes rooney his the first responsable

 

it's my theory i can be wrong ...in anycase tomlin needed others head coaches support

 

or he hired the best possible candidate duh.

 

yes because he needed
do you see other coaches really in charge o their team surrended by such a experienced pool of head coaches ?
i mean this is a fact he need a lot of support because is still young and inexperience now i hope he will use it properly

 

yes i agree was a smart move just i wanted to say that i would have prefer an already experienced coach that doesn't need a such cast of coaches because he already know what to do to with our team .

 

I believe that too and for a couple of reasons. The Haley family and the Rooneys have a long-standing and tight knit relationship AND the Rooneys wanted a "head coach" of the offense to compensate for Tomlin's lack of experience in that area. I'm not saying that's a bad thing as most head coaches are coordinators and have more experience on one side of the ball or the other. I'm just saying that's why I think the Rooneys pursued the Haley hire so vigorously.

 

People can complain about the coaches all they want. The game is played and executed by the players. When the players make mistakes, turn the ball over, miss open WRs, drop passes, ect. that falls on the players. Ain't going to win many games in the league with the amount of mistakes the team made on the road vs the Ravens.

It's not enough to say Ben is a franchise QB. He needs to raise his game and play like a franchise caliber QB.