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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Mar 4, 2025.

  1. Thor

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    Ahh, good catch. I meant to put the first of their 3rds (my chart shows 240) and the 4th (46). That's 26 points over, but I figured that covered the charge of getting another first round pick out of the deal.

    1st: -
    2nd: 36
    3rd: 70, 83
    4th: 123, 126
    5th: 156
    6th: 185
    7th: 221
     
  2. Brice

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    I heard he is wanting 2 years $8 million. He is currently better than anyone else on the roster.
     
  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    He’s never played a full season. Last year was his healthiest and still missed 4 games.

    Rather draft one but if they bring in another FA I prefer to roll the dice on Chubb being back to form now that he is 2 seasons removed from his injury. He fits with Warren better, Dobbins and Warren are the same back.
     
  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't pay him $4 million a year just to be a part of a three-man rotation at RB, they can just get a younger and cheaper RB in the draft.
     
  5. Thor

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    Guess I never thought about that. My thoughts on Dobbins have normally been preoccupied with his ability to stay healthy. I like the idea of Chubb, too, but they're both high-risk.

    Probably best just grabbing one in draft at this point. Or they can just wait until they sign Rodgers. He'll tell them who they need to get.
     
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  6. forgotten1

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    Like I said, the Steelers did a good job selling a story and quite a few folks here were suckered into believing it
     
  7. Formerscribe

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    Chubb looked terrible most of last season. Maybe another year of recovery from the wrecked knee will help, or maybe he will never get it back. Dobbins was at least effective when he played last season. Despite all the injuries, he has rushed for over 800 yards in a season twice, something Warren has never done. :)
     
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  8. Blast Furnace

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    784 yards on 149 carries which is pretty damn good. Najee needed a 100+ more carries to break 1,000 ;)

    And unlike Warren, Dobbins actually does have a significant injury history. He’s a very good RB when healthy though.
     
  9. Formerscribe

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    Warren has missed games in two of his three seasons and was less than 100 percent most of last season. His injury history isn't as daunting as that of Dobbins, but it's not nothing.
     
  10. SGSteeler

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    We should just draft one. There are a good bit of high end studs at the top of the draft this year, but there are going to be some guys from the day 3 crop that turn out to be decent rotational pieces. I like Dobbins and certainly feel bad that his injuries pretty much ruined his career... but we can find a comparable back to take 8-9 touches a game elsewhere.

    Warren has earned his shot to lead the backfield, and it is pretty obvious that the team feels like he can handle it. No need to take Chubb or Dobbins or any other past their prime RB to fill in. Take a shot on a guy on day 3 and see if you can strike gold again like we did with UDFA Warren.
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I agree, too good of a draft class to not take one. The only reason they might do that is because of the lack of picks they have. Then I could see them bringing in another vet to carry some of the load.
     
  12. Blast Furnace

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    What was the other season he missed games? How many?

    He only missed two last year. His injury history is pretty much a nothing burger.
     
  13. Formerscribe

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    I keep seeing the excuse that his workload was limited by injury last season, which indicates he was limited in other games. Either he dealt with injuries more than just those two weeks or the coaches had some other reason to limit his workload, which would have to be performance. It has to be one or the other. He had six or fewer carries in six games last season. Do you think he was healthy for all of them?

    If I remember correctly, he was slowed by an injury for the opener, when he got only two carries. He was injured during the game Week 3 against the Chargers, which limited him in that game. Then he missed the next two. That is at least four games. He also missed a game as a rookie.

    You've got a smallish back with a physical running style coming off a season when he was slowed by multiple injuries and you think that is a safe bet to double his workload. Sure.
     
  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    No player is a 100% through a whole season. Najee should have been sat down when he had the Lisfranc injury, that affected him for a large portion of that season.
     
  15. Formerscribe

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    Perhaps, but he still managed to carry a starter's workload even with that injury while Warren all but disappeared in some games because he wasn't healthy.
     
  16. Brice

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    When you said Dart, I thought you wanted the Steelers to trade up. I keep seeing Dart going in the Top 10.

    I like your idea of moving back if the D-Lineman is not there who the Steelers want, so they can pickup a second and maybe a late, late 1st round pick.
     
  17. Thor

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    Hard to see that happening. If the Steelers swapped firsts with the Eagles, moving all the way down to 32, they'd have 210 points in value. The Eagles' also own have the last (thus cheapest) pick in the second round, but it's still worth 270 points.

    So the Eagles would have to be willing to overpay - unlikely given they have no glaring holes - or the Steelers would have to throw in their 4th (49 points). Still a slight overpay for them, but more realistic.
     
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  18. Brice

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    So you are saying if the Steelers want to move back, it is going to be out of the 1st round; not just to the end of the 1st round.
     
  19. Thor

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    It all depends on what compensation they're looking to pick up and how far they're comfortable moving down. If Grant and/or Harmon are still on the board at 21, I personally would want to stay in range of taking one of them. That would limit how far down I'd want to go, which would limit the return, unless I added more to the deal. With how they've appeared to play free agency thus far - trying to max the number of comp picks received next year - they could look to deal some 2026 picks in such a move so they don't have to give up any more from this class.
     
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  20. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    With Khan and Tomlins disdain for moving back I think trading a player would be their most likely plan of action to pick up more draft capital.
     
  21. Thor

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    I didn't know Khan was averse to it. I remember he traded down in 2023 in the 3rd to pick up an extra 4th.

    But historically the Steelers as an organization don't do much trading down (despite somebody calling for it every year :lolol:).
     
  22. Formerscribe

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    The last time they traded down in the first round was 2001, dropping from 16 to 19 and taking Casey Hampton. Before that, I think it was 1990, when they traded their pick to the Cowboys, who used it to select Emmitt Smith. Trading out of a spot to pass on a Hall of Famer is enough to scare a team off doing it again for a while even if there was some logic to the move. This was just one year after the Steelers had used the seventh pick overall on Tim Worley. Also, they still got a good player in Eric Green.
     
  23. Blast Furnace

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    I think he was referring to the first rd. If there is a player they like they don’t really see themselves moving down. They’d have to know for sure they’d still get the guy they liked after moving back.

    But that logic probably still fits for when they traded back in the 3rd, is that when they picked up Washington?
     
  24. steelersrule6

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    They should've signed a vet who can be a swing tackle.
     
  25. Formerscribe

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    Agreed. They still might, but they have done a poor job with free agency this offseason.
     
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