The official 2023 NFL draft thread (no spoilers)

Pickett's development is the most important factor for the Steelers in 2023. He needs to take a step forward if the Steelers are going to make the playoffs and be a threat once they get there.

I would be very surprised to see Jack return. They signed two starting inside linebackers as free agents. They still have Robinson and added Muse as another reserve there. I think any additional resources will be focused on help at outside linebacker or strong safety.

 

Should or shouldn’t? That’s critical. A typo or how you felt.

If you are saying you and the rest of the league then are you saying the medical concern that blew up on draft day didn’t play a factor in his draft slide and even without it he was going to slide into at least the third?

Because yeah, I still believe differently and that the knee concern played a huge factor in his slide. Until other teams specifically answer that question directly and it may never become a story we will never actually know 100%, but it will take only one team to confirm that they backed away because of it or not.

I’d really like to know, and not just to settle a debate in here, but because I had so much desire invested into his selection I am really dying to know why he slid. Even the Steelers could answer the question, but because he’s on the team already I doubt they answer with absolute transparency. It doesn’t help anything. They will just move forward with real important business and not worthless debate settling.

 

Well, without rehashing things ad naseum even further I seem to remember us bickering quite heavily on if they were lucky or not. It’s all about level of luck vs. plan. I said it was more luck, I read your comments it was part of a greater plan that I disagreed with and the post draft comments I felt backed my position. At this point…whatever.

I agree that it seems clear that Washington was not in their plans at 32 regardless. 49 I’m not sure, because of the medical. Again, I think that might have played a factor.

 

Yeah, we disagree there for the most part. I’ve stated all along I think his stats suffered because of the stacked system he played in combined with his tremendous blocking value. If he was on most other college teams I’m betting his number are far better in the receiving category. We will never know.

But I don’t think he’ll ever be Kelsey level at receiving. That guy is too physical an agility freak. But Washington, yes, I think he can become a way better receiving player if he’s given the opportunity. We will see…

 

The conversation about Muse is he’s for special teams and a deep insurance value at the ILB position, not really the third ILB rotation option. Robinson is still a question mark. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Steelers want Jack back. But I’d be surprised if Jack himself wants to return. I think his career would be extended if he settles here.

 

The Steelers said they were comfortable trading down at 80 because the number of players they liked there.
Daiyan Henley, Trenton Simpson, Ja'yir Brown, DeMarvion Overshown, Jordan Battle, Ricky Stronmerg, Ika, Cameron Latu, Kelee Ringo, Abediwore all taken in the next 30 picks. They were going to get a player they liked at a position of need. Only the first 4 were taken before our pick.

 

This draft has the potential to be the best since 2017. Maybe better. 2017 was a good draft.

 

Being that most are still playing, and some still starting in the NFL....Yes(2017) it was a great draft. I agree

 

Watt being pretty much a sure shot HOF'er helps too.

 

Don’t wish summer away

Why does this sound familiar to me

Oh now I remember you don’t like summer

 

I hate summer too but it's now May and it's snowing outside and going to snow the next 2 days with highs in the 30's. I don't like that too much either.

 

I just emptied out me wallet, found mine stuffed in the George Castansa pocket..you know..the never use bit always keep stash.

 

I checked in having missed most of the weekend and was pleased to see that, despite the general sense this was a great draft, TSF still has an 115 page thread of highly specific arguments.

 

We don't know that the medical concern only "blew up" on draft day. That was when the media and general public heard about it. That doesn't mean teams weren't aware. Also, it is only speculation that concerns about his knees are why he was taken later than expected. Players fall in drafts for all sorts of reasons. Sometimes, they are good reasons. Sometimes, they are really stupid reasons.

Hell, even one team saying they backed away due to his knee doesn't mean others did the same.

You are right about one thing. The Steelers have no reason to address the question of why he was drafted later than expected. They certainly don't want to put information out there about his health.

 

Pittsburgh has historically prided itself on drafting hearts n smarts players with high degrees of athletic ability. Jarvis Jones was merely a wake up call for not just Tomlin but Colbert and subsequently Kahn as well. Happy to see that they have not changed since 2014.


Regarding Herbig, I stand by my assessment of him; likely to be a ILB in the future but best served as a rotational piece for the pass rush. He needs to hit the NFL Weight Room; something he likely has done already.

 

Bikinis

 

Sun dresses

 

Up to 3

 

It’s not **** all cold would be 4

 

Have we/ did we bring in a punter in FA/ undrafted player?
I hope we find a new one!

 

In terms of the teams needs, Herbig has to be an OLB. Because we really don't have anything else to back Watt or Highsmith up.

Looking at his college stuff he looks a lot like Watt, except for being slightly smaller. Okay his arm length is 2 inches shorter, but I think you need to at least try him there first ... because if you move him inside I think he is just gonna wash out with the team. If he plays on the inside he is gonna have to learn a new position. They will have to have the patience for that.

I really think Leal has to remain as 3-4 DE. He has shown he is a good pass rusher, and I truly believe he can someday excel at setting the edge.