The new GM versus Tomlin

It’s interesting to me how fast the new GM has turned the roster around. 2 seasons and a lot of great things have happened. The national media wants to praise Tomlin for making the QB switch at 4-2. I watched just about every snap of those 6 games. Justin Fields was hot garbage. I also think Wilson was ready to play earlier than week 7. Would the Steelers be undefeated right now if Wilson was the QB starting in week 4. In my opinion this team is rolling because of the new GM. Tomlin just about cost them the game yesterday with the fake punt. He isn’t a great coach. I do think the team is so talented they will win a playoff game this year. Will Tomlin be the weak link in the playoffs time will tell. Also can someone point me to a game that a trick play worked for Tomlin. I feel like he occasionally tries them but they always look like hot garbage almost like we didn’t practice the play at all. It will be a fun season because of Wilson but if he leaves this off season it might be the last for a long time unless our new GM can work his magic. Justin Fields is not the answer.

 

Don't even know where to start.

 

Hmmmm 2 years ago about 85% of the board said Tomlin sucks. Now you are convinced everything is perfect and he is great. The team is a lot better but what has Tomlin done. I see the same weak link. The good news is Wilson keeps saying we haven’t done anything yet.

 

2 years ago 85% of this board were incorrect. Just as you are now incorrect in arguing that Khan deserves all of the praise.

Mike Tomlin is and has been a top 5 coach in the NFL, who knows so much more about football and his job than you do. But because this is sports, everyone is entitled to an opinion about a job they have never done, are not qualified to do, and will never do.

We have 2 cast offs at QB and we are 7-2. The Steelers just won a game because of a coaching decision to line up on 4th down. Omar Khan did not make that decision, and yet you choose today as the day to voice your opinion about Khan. Timing in life is important and your timing is terrible. Wait for the loss as we will likely have 3-4 more. And yes, at the beginning of the season I would have been very happy finishing 11-6. And I still will be.

 

You just said Tomlin is a top 5 coach. At the same time you say if I am not a head coach and can’t rate him hmmmm. Two castoffs at QB that’s ridiculous to say about Wilson. Wilson will be in the HOF just based on what he did in Seattle. He is 35 which is not over the hill at QB.

 

1. What great thing happened last year? No shade for Khan, but last year was par for the course when looking at last 4 years.
2. You lose credibility by saying you watched every snap and also saying that Fields was hot garbage.
3. You are making a completely blind guess that Wilson was ready before Tomlin deemed him ready. Again, lack of credibility.
4. I'd run that fake punt every single time given that look...Pierre just didn't catch the ball. Forgot that on Tomlin too.

I don't blame you for being frustrated with Tomlin given the lack of success in the playoffs, but as Joshi pointed out, your timing is laughable.

 

And there are multiple people on this board that think the nfl is rigged and the earth is flat, does that make them right?

 

moon of cheese too

 

Or to put it another way for the last 3 years a whole bunch of you have been crying from every rooftop about how bad Dan Moore is. He’s the worst tackle in the league. He’s a bust. Cut him! What does Moore have on tomlin? Now you don’t hear them say a word about Moore. They’ve turned their hatred to Jones. One would think they would learn from their mistakes, but they won’t. When jones sorts it out they’ll move onto their next target

 

You mention last year as far as rating Kahn. Well 3 years ago we completely sucked. The GM can’t make a crap team and turn the into an all madden team over night. Wilson hurt his calf and you think it took 8 weeks. In comparison a broken bone would heal a little faster than that. Hell people think highsmith will be back in 6 weeks if it’s a high ankle sprain. Fake punt its not a good idea to have a guy that has zero catches in his career to catch a ball. Wilson was hot garbage period. The defense was winning the turnover battle at a very high margin and all were nail bitters.

 

I feel like Jones has to be injured. His play from last year to this year doesn’t make much sense.

 

See that simply isn’t true. Go back and look at the last 3-4 games last season. Jones wasn’t good. It takes a few years for these guys to put it all together. Yes. He was a first round pick, but he is still a project nonetheless. He played what all of 15 college games and did so on a great team where he was largely resting the second half of every game

 

There is a lot to disagree with here.

1. I've been a detractor of Tomlin's but you can't really give credit to one for success then omit someone else. Tomlin has been just a big of a part of the success this year as the GM, the owner, and the players. Winning in the NFL is a organizational thing and that is apparent when you look at the large number of organizations that have long runs of losing spelled with small pockets of winning. Tomlin will get credit for the change and he should. However, where Tomlin will be judged is in the post season. He's inability to get the team ready for the challenge for the last 8 years has been a huge reason why we've performed so poorly over that stretch (often with good/better teams). He will foot the blame if we flame out in the first round again (as he should) just as he is getting credited for our regular season success. Or conversely, if we win he will get the credit and rightfully so. But generally one can't succeed fully without success from the other.

2. Fields wasn't garbage at all. He was the 15th rated passer in the NFL in that span and was responsible for 10 TD's and 2 Turnovers on his stat line. He didn't perform as well as Russell has, but to call his play hot garbage is wildly inaccurate. We will never know if this team would be undefeated with Wilson all season or not, but the downside of having a 35 yr old (36 this month) QB is that they are more prone to injury. Having an NFL starting quality QB sitting behind Russ is never a bad thing, because you never know how he will hold up health-wise long term and Fields has already proven that he can win with our team. What happens in the offseason will be directly tied to how this season finishes up. No use in speculating on the future of the QB position.

3. The fake punt wasn't a "bad call". It was likely a check that Danny Smith uncovered by scouting Washington's coverage unit and Killebrew/Pierre were given the green light to execute any time that they got the specific look to exploit. It was there too, Pierre just dropped the ball. Is it a bad play call if Arthur Smith schemes up a wide open receiver in the end zone and the WR drops the ball, was it a bad play call? Or just not executed?

4. Overall, we can agree that the GM has been great so far. He's put a lot of talent onto the roster through the draft and free agency. We haven't made any big financial investments that have backfired either. His tenure is still in its' infancy, but its been a strong start. The roster has improved and given us a good outlook into the future.

 

When you say all of Fields games were nailbiters, it tells me you don't know what "nailbiter" means to Steelers fans. Yesterday? Nailbiter. Cowboys game? Nailbiter. Colts? Nailbiter. That's when the last drive is going to win or lose the game.
Game 1- 10 point lead with 1:30 to play. Yeah, they kick a field goal, but that still means getting the onside kick and going 55 yards. Not happening.
Game 2- 8 point win. They need to go 70 yards and make the 2 point conversion in 30 seconds. I'll give you a half a nail biter.
Game 3- 10 point win, had the ball the last 7 minutes, Najee slides down at the 1 to run the clock out. Not a nail biter.
Game 6- Ahead by 8-19 the whole second half. Not a nailbiter.

I know it's probably just me, but it sounds like you're complaining to hear yourself complain.

 

My two biggest problems with Tomlin are that he seems to keep problem children around far too long, and the man knows when to throw a red flag and when not to throw red flag...... Except that he has those times mixed up. Lol

 

Wow!

 

Winner winner chicken dinner

 

See, it's the part where you just make crap up that loses people.
"85% of the board said Tomlin sucks". Maybe 30%. A loud 30%, but still no where near 85%. Many people were shocked that with as little offensive talent we had, including Pickett at qb, we still were in the playoff race until week 17.
"Now you are convinced everything is perfect and great". No one on the board has said that. No one on the board believes it. But that's what you're going to argue about, because, well, you just want to argue.
"I see the same weak link" Haters gonna hate, my man.

 

You are giving Wilson credit like he came here with high expectations….hmmm

Perhaps you should go back to Spring and Summer and read all the questions about Wilson, including many who were suggesting he was washed up.

Credit to Steelers for taking a chance and Wilson for stepping up to the challenge. I am sure both Tomlin and Khan were involved in those discussions.

 

TOMLIN has done a very good job this year so far. Let’s see how he finishes.

 

Things that make you go Hmmmmmm.

 

Which ever idiot hired Canada and kept him for so long was, is, and will forever be an idiot.

nothing that idiot does will remove the stain of having hired, and kept Canada for so long.

 

Whichever idiot takes the most blame for this sad stat, should not get kudos for breaking the streak.

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Well, the biggest notable difference from Colbert to Khan can be traced via an article here. Granted, two more drafts will create a greater sample size but the fact of the matter that the Pre Draft Visits mean a lot more now than they did with Colbert does speak volumes somewhat. More often than not, knowing the person is more critical than knowing the player. Biggest one though isn't even that.


Me and @SteelersFanIrl have both been saying the 2022 class has been one to forget; much less the classes from 2018-2021. Khan is now tasked with undoing all of that and the results thus far have shown in just his first two seasons with the team as the Official GM. Should Khan knock it out of the park again in 2025, Pittsburgh might finally be back into Super Bowl contention.