The most overrated Steeler?

The most under-rated player BY the Steelers has to be Johnny Unitas

 

Troy has missed a lot of time over his entire career. A LOT. He has done some truly amazing things, but to be honest Carnell Lake did some truly amazing things at Safety and he hardly ever got hurt over the span of a long career here.

Troy has played 11 years, but I feel we have only gotten 5 or 6 from him.

 

Wow..this is tough. For now, I will go with Woodley and Pouncey.

 

Seriously?!?!
Seriously?!?!

Anyone who answers that ANY Steeler is/was over-rated should be hung by their toes for several days from the U.S. Steel building,
enemanized by The Fountain, have to say 20 'Hail Chiefs', no fried jumbo sammiches, or pierogies for 6 months and be forced to drink only Kool-Aid(made from 1959 Mon water) for the 1st regular season game.

Such blasphemy!

Just the opinion of a Homestead guy.
'un-intellectual savior of the un-washed masses'

 

just because we are Steelers fans doesnt mean we cant be critical or not like or even think certain players are over rated. ive been a Steeler fans for well over 30 years and there have been a lot of players i didnt like or thought wasnt as good as other people thought they were.

right now that guy would be Pouncey. he was a bright spot on a bad line his rookie year and ever since he has just been the best guy on terrible lines. i would like to see what he can do with real talent playing along side of him. will he still stand out then?

 

Everybody plays better when their teammates are better. His game has nowhere to go but up, and that's coming from someone that doesn't think he's overrated.

 

No but 106 for ilb in a 3-4 defense is not great. He is a former first round pick he should be calling the defense by now. Like I said he is good lber with great range. A lot of fans think he is great and he simply isn't. Did he rank in the top 5 in any category last year or even top 10 I don't think so.
2 sacks is not acceptable especially not when he called double digits before the season. I was a Timmons defender coming into this season but o think we have seen his max and it's not great but good. Yinz all blast Foote but if Timmons could call the defense foote wouldn't have to be out there. That is footes sole purpose on the field is to call the defense.

 

Statistically speaking, he has played in about 81% of our games, a little over 4 out of 5. He's missed 1 season and 14 games out of a possible 10 seasons.

I think it might seem like he's missed more time than he actually has, because he misses it in bits and pieces here and there, instead of the way guys usually miss time, all at once due to a torn ACL or something. So it seems like he's always hurt. Still, 4 out of 5 isn't exactly what we want to see, but it's better than nothing. He's still a beast for those 4 games he's on the field.

 

Lord, Forgive me. SteelerNation, Forgive me!!!!!!!!!!

Most over-rated of all Time????

Lynn Swann----

I Love Lynn Swann and he could catch anything near him. But if we are gonna say MOST Over-rated we must be real. We must take emotion out and look at hype and awards/accolades vs production.

Lynn was also one of my all-time favorites to go along with Rocky and Lamert so this is hard for me.

Lynn was our # one pick in 74', a year where we also drafted Bonified HOFers Lambert, Stallworth and Webster in later rds.

Lynn had a 9 yr career, a 3 time pro-bowler, a 1 time 1st team all-Pro, a SB MVP ( 4 catches for 161 yds ) and named HOF in 01'.

Lynn only made 336 rec for 5462 yds in that 9 yr career. He had 51 TD's with his longest rec being 68 yds. He avg 2.9 rec and 47.5 yds per game for his career. He had two seasons where he had 11 TDs. Remove those and he avg only 4.1 TD per season for the remaining 7yrs of his carerr.


Fans will defend him by saying we were a running team. True, but even so a 4th rd pick that same year was our true best WR ( stallworth ) for all those yrs. Lynn got into the HOF after many many yrs of promotion. Another Steeler WR, Louis Lipps has much better career numbers but will never get into the HOF because he didn't have those unbelievable memorable catches that were at the most opportune time.

Was Swann Great? In my and many more Steeler fans eyes he was. Was he the Most over-rated? In my eyes, yes.

Cajun-

 

he had 6 sacks, tied for the team lead.

 

You're out of you mind. Swann was 100% clutch and could be counted on for each and every play. He caught more balls that would have been uncatchable by 99% of the other players though out the league back then and still right now. Bradshaw made him into a human highlight reel because Terry was off target to the high side more often than not. No way was Swann over rated.

 

don't forget just like woodley, they have played hurt in alot of games that hurt this team more then helped it.

cowher was famous for playing troy when he shouldn't have been dressed let alone starting. those numbers are different if you add those. and probably if they did then what they do now with concussions, he may have missed even more in his earlier days.

i'm not saying troys underated, but these days age is creeping in too. i'd re-sign clark to go out with troy in a couple of years.

 

Like I said, it wasn't easy for me but I put it out there and as of now stand by that. Its easy for you to rail against my opinion but yet you offer no opinion of your own that's on the subject matter. With the exception of your last sentence I agree with you which makes my choice so hard. Now why don't you put forth your choice of all-time most overrated, or do you have a legimate opinion?

Cajun-

 

Ok I'm good with 6 not sure where I got 2 from but I still stand by my statement.

 

OK. Shoot. Off the top of my head I will go with Bradshaw. His supporting cast on both Offense and Defense made him into the 4 X SB Champ, twice MVP that he is today. If you put him on any other team he would have been the likes of Vinny Testeverde and nothing more. I do give him and Chuck Noll credit though in allowing him to basically call his own game but when your roster is full of arguably some of the greatest players ever than you can afford that leeway.

 

Now we can have a good debate. I almost we with Bradshaw myself. He was ( i think ) a 8 year vet before his 1st 300 yr game. He didn't throw a pretty pass and quite often was a bit off target. I decided not to go with him because he was a 4 time SB winning QB. The game was not too big for him. He called his own game This was something because alot of QB who have that free reign will pad their numbers but Bradshaw recognized the big picture and the talent around him. He contolled the clock with the run and trusted his defense. When he needed to he was able to have that passing game success. He wasn't the best passing QB but he was one of the best Leaders a team could have. He didn't lose games by not being able to handle the big games or making dumb mistakes. The game starts with the QB. That's why I went with Swann instead of Bradshaw.

Cajun-

 

Agree that he's played hurt, but not sure which game he hurt more than he helped. The most disappointed I've been in his play was the end of his DPOY 2010 season, when he came back from that achilles injury but was clearly still hurt. I don't blame him for the play because obviously it was injury related, but it might have cost us the Super Bowl.

That said, if he wasn't out there, it'd have been Mundy. Or if you're talking about different parts of his career, Tyrone Carter. Even Troy not playing like Troy is better than either of those guys. Him playing hurt might have cost us a win, but him playing in the game didn't. It'd have been even worse without him.

 

Agree. I'd say Tommy Maddox. He was crazy overrated at the time. Not sure if he counts 100% since then the love for him has simmered down some, but if you remember what it was like 10 years ago, people were acting like he was the savior of the franchise. I was never, ever on board with that guy, and that was the only period that I had trouble watching Steelers games. In fact, I rooted for them to lose, because I knew it would help us in the long run to be rid of him. Luckily, that worked out perfectly, thanks to Dan Rooney.

On top of generally being overrated, Maddox had some of the worst performances in quarterbacking history.

 

Not trying to stir the pot here but I would consider Ben to be more of an "elite" QB than Bradshaw ever was. Matter of fact I could not even give Terry that type of label.

Sure, you have to have a good supporting cast around you, but overall I cannot think of any QB in the League that had a better one than Terry did between 1974 thru 1980. I'd even say that 5 or 6 SB wins for those teams was really not that far off of the prediction back then. They were just that dominant. Teams absolutely feared playing the Steelers Defense. Elway nearly soiled himself right at midfield. The 76 team is without a doubt the best ever to not win a SB. Injuries to just 2 RB's killed the season. Terry couldn't adjust the passing game to overcome the loss of Rocky and Franco. Ben has shown time and again that if he is 100% he can still get a W just with the next man up.

 

I don't even think he was good. He had 3/4 of one good season, and that was it. And he wasn't even that good in that one season. Overall he did way more harm than good, including almost single-handedly costing us a playoff berth in 2005. Can you imagine?

 

Disagree. Was Tommy overrated? sure he was. The most overrated all-time. no. Tommy arrived after the terrible times we had with kordell, and was named NFLs comeback player of the year in 02'. He did play quite well that year and we went 7-3-1. But overall he had a short career here ( 5 yr ) and was only a starter for 32 games and he had a record of 15-16-1.

That one year ( 2002) when fans went crazy for him he actually had a good season and we had hope, but he quickly showed he wasn't the man we hoped for and fanfare went away and with it went away how well he was rated and preceived. Not sure he even Qualifies as a All-Time Most Overrated candidate.

Cajun-