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The lethal combination of Tomlin and Rooney

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by TrueFan, Jul 15, 2026.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Are you calling Rooney a liar?

    It’s in his book on how he steered them towards Ben.
     
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  2. Blast Furnace

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  3. jeh1856

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    Read it again slowly without twisting the words to fit your narrative

    Show me exactly where it says Cowher wanted an OL over Ben
     
  4. TrueFan

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  5. jeh1856

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    Next you will be telling me the Steelers lied about Pickett

    Oh never mind that’s another reading comprehension challenged poster
     
  6. jeh1856

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    Well I’ll show you

    :drinks:

    :drinks:
     
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  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I realize you have a bug up your ass about this but at the end of the day you are just believing one interpretation over another. I choose the other.

    Ive already posted Rooneys excerpt but if I get time I’ll post it again so you can again twist it to fit your narrative.
     
  8. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Ben was 3rd on depth chart after he was drafted behind Maddox and Batch. Batch got hurt and Brian St Pierre was still on the roster. Ben moved to #2 after preseason, Maddox was injured in the Ravens game... the rest is history.
     
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  9. Steelersfan43

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    To be fair,at this time,more often that not,the rookie QB was sitting on the bench for much of their rookie year.Carson Palmer with the bengals sit the entire 2003 season despite to be first overall.Outside of Dan Marino,Roethlisberger was the first one to have great success in his rookie season.Ben was the first QB ever to win offensive rookie of the year...Nobody could expect that at that time
     
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  10. steelersrule6

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    Dan didn't seem like he was the type of guy to lie to make himself look good.
     
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  11. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    It don't matter much if Cowher wanted Ben or not in the 2004 draft since when Ben become the starter,they were so unstoppable together!
     
  12. Blast Furnace

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    I know that but he was still the number 11th pick overall and anyone should have been able to see that it wouldnt be hard to surpass those two.
     
  13. Blast Furnace

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    I know that was more the case in the 90’s but by 2004 I thought we were already seeing guys start immediately based on draft pedigree.
     
  14. Steelersfan43

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    In 2004,Eli Manning did not start,same for Rivers...Kurt Warner was considered as washed after the last 2 years with the rams and Brees was considered as a below average QB before 2004 because of his very poor 2004 season.Despite that,they start the season on the bench despite to be drafted in the top 4.Same for Carson Palmer in 2003
     
  15. jeh1856

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    He didn’t lie

    You are just confused
     
  16. NorthernBlitz

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    I think it's more of a "Steelers are patient to a fault" kind of thing vs. a "Cowher is a bad coach" kind of thing....but if BC had his way, we would have missed one of the best rookie seasons ever by an NFL QB.

    And if Ben didn't play in year 1 (which was clearly the plan), what would year 2 have looked like?

    Again, I think it's more just what the team's philosophy was back then. But we got very lucky with those two injuries that year.
     
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  17. TrueFan

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    To be honest, owners and coaches are like politicians, lawyers, or the media, when it comes to making statements. You simply can't take any of it as reality.
     
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  18. NorthernBlitz

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    I don't think we'll ever really know the truth about this.

    When he book came out, I listened to an interview with LeBeau saying that he was the only one in the room that ranked Ben first in the class over Eli and Rivers (maybe on the Terrible Podcast?). IIRC, his reasoning was that Ben played well in crappy weather. I don't remember him having any information about the idea of Ben vs. the OT.
     
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  19. Bubbahotep

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    I think if you study some of those draft classes they were poor overall, not just for the Steelers. Not every year is loaded, and some years the dropoff is steep.

    Add to this some years the Steelers got caught with a weak class at a position of need.
     
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