The 49ers trade QB Trey Lance to Dallas

He sucks but he will be their project

 

That’s stupid.

These owners sometimes.

Jones needs to retire.

 

Well He got Him way cheaper than the 49ers did.....by way far.
Dallas got him for a 4th round pick. 49ers got Him for 3 first round picks, and a 3rd. LoL. Can You imagine the hate on this board if the Steelers did that???? LoL

 

Trey must be worse than advertised for the 9ers to trade him to one of their long time rivals.

 

So.... two things can be true in the aftermath here.


1.) Kyle Shanahan needs to realize that, no matter how exceptional one's schemes are, he is going to need a top flight QB. Many stare Brock can be that but seven games is still too small a sample size. For that matter, we all will find out just how good Purdy is not just Week 1 but for the whole season.


2.) Trey Lance gets a fresh start. Great for him.... not so much for Dak. Remember, Dak lead the league in INTs... without playing the whole season! I seriously doubt trading for Trey was just simply for depth purposes. I imagine that Jerry wants Trey to work.

 

you said 7 games isn't enough to make a decision on. How many games does Kenny have total? I'm not sure just asking

 

Kenny has 13 games started but 12 total. Now granted, 12 still isn't a full season. However, I have seen Kenny Pickett start in five more games than Brock; a major point of emphasis given how both were Rookies a season ago.


Jury is still out for both but the evidence suggests that Pickett is more likely to develop into something more than what he was a year ago. Brock Purdy is still coming back from a UCL Injury. To his credit, he barely missed any Training Camp time though.


However, seven games of action is still more inconclusive compared to twelve.

 

Mentioned this in another thread. Forgot Tindall was apart of it.

 

I guess I see it a bit differently. I think Purdy outplayed Kenny last year. Maybe that has something to do with coaching or offensive scheme but he still had to make the plays. He seems to have a stronger arm than Kenny as well. I am interested to see how Pickett progresses this year and man I hope he's the next long term QB for the Steelers. I just think right now Purdy is showing way more upside than Kenny is at this point.

 

Purdy was good last year but not as good as his stats...He was in a perfect situation.It's unbelievable how many times multiple receivers are open on a play in this system and they have so many yards after the catch. Even Jimmy G had great stats in this system

This play below is a perfect exemple and it inflates the stats of a QB like crazy!

Deebo Samuel 74 yard TD to put the game away - YouTube

 

Having an effective running game and running that play action = open receivers.

 

Big win for Dallas here. Not sure why you think Dallas giving up a 4th for Lance is a bad move for Jones and the Cowboys. Jones stated before the 2023 Draft he wanted the Cowboys to draft a QB early, and that didn't play out this year.


I like Lance's chances of running Dak Prescott's simplified offense a lot better than trying to run Kyle Shanahan's complicated offense.

FYI: Trey's salary hit this year for the Cowboys is $940,000.


The only question to be answered now, with Lance's 49ers career over will this go down as the WORST DRAFT TRADE in the History of the NFL?

 

I still think Miami would have been better off using those 1st round draft picks on 1st round draft picks.

 

Dak's cap hit next year is nearly 60 million bucks, with cut hit of 61 million..so they are stuck for at least a year. Cooper Ruch is signed through 24 and his cost is minimal. They will need to decide next year to pick up Trey's 5th year option, but his cap hit is manageable. They could try a the GB move with Love, renegotiate the option, Dak's cut hit in 25 is still over 30 million, but by then they should have a feel if Trey is their guy. It's not a bad move, if he just does not look good they can cut with little loss, the biggest issue will be the 5th year option..which is doable, but a bit pricey with Dak as well. Overall its a shrewd move, potential for high upside with little investment.

 

Well... as I stated before, Kyle Shanahans system is designed to be as QB Friendly as humanely possible. Yes, Kyle does want a mobile QB that can go when needed but the QB themselves don't need to perform or do a whole lot for the Shanahan West Coast Offense to work. Biggest thing to note about Purdys Offense was that Shanahan already had this Offense ready long before Purdy entered the fold. Really, it is far more rhythm and timing based than any other Offensive System in the league... save for maybe Andy Reid though Patrick Mahomes permits Andy to get as creative as he wants.



Kenny simply didn't have this luxury a season ago. Never mind the massive growing pains of the Offensive Line alone, Matt Canada seriously didn't know what type of Offense he even wanted to run. As a result, the first half of 2023 was the most disjointed Steelers Offense many of us have seen in some time. This would be corrected in the second half thankfully but there were still questions to be answered as a whole.


If this Pre Season is of any indication, both Canada and Pickett have seem to found the Offenses identity. As stated before, Shanahan had the Offense long ready for Purdy. All Purdy had to do was execute; something I do give him high marks for. That said, will he be able to do it again?!

 

With all due respect, I couldn’t disagree more with that last sentence. Pickett did what he did in spite of his OC and Purdy did what he did because of his HC/OC. Canada will never be mistaken for Shanahan when it comes to play design, etc. I think Pickett is much more athletic and can make things happen when the play breaks down, much better than Purdy can. His arm is every bit as string IMHO as well. Purdy doesn’t wow anybody with his arm strength. Let’s talk again after the first game. Pickett vs. Purdy…let’s go!

 

you know here's the issue. Any success or good things a team does has to go back to the coaching staff. So you're saying you could have picked up any QB inserted him into that system and no matter who was at QB they would have been just as successful. So really our coaches sucked. What happened to have to having a good QB? You can't have it both ways. No coaching is so good so as to survive down to their 3rd string QB drafted last in the whole league. Look I'm a big Pickett fan but so far I think Purdy has been better. Teams have searched for years for a good QB and here the 49ers just happened to find one in the last pick of the draft? The kid deserves praise for how he performed. You're right we'll see how the two do head to head first game of the season

 

It can be both ways. A OCs system can make it easier for a Qb, but I Qb can help make, and , or break, and destroy a system. Every Qb , but two under Shanahan has looked very very good. From RG3 to Matt Ryan, and neither look as good without Shanahan. Bad thing is the Qb Shanahan, and his GM gave up 3 first round pick, and a 3rd for wasn't one of them.

 

Where did I say that you could insert any generic quarterback in Shanahan’s system and he’d have success? (Hint: nowhere) I’m not taking anything away from Purdy. To go from being Mr. Irrelevant to being a serviceable quarterback in Shanahan’s system is quite remarkable. But nothing I’ve seen from Purdy leads me to believe he has outperformed Pickett so far in their young careers. Pickett has made more splash plays and I believe is a better quarterback when the play breaks down. The thing is, that rarely happens in Shanahan’s offense which relies on timing and precision. Still not getting how you believe Purdy has “way more upside” than Pickett.

 

Ok let's take a look at last year. Purdy had a 67 percent completion rate to Kenny's 63. Not a huge difference. Purdy had 13 TDs to Kenny's 7. Kenny had 9 picks to Purdy's 4. You made the assertion that Purdy was succesfull not because he was a good QB but that Shanahan Was a such a great coach all Purdy had to do was go out and execute and it was a done deal. So I guess we'll wait and see how that first game this year comes out. I hope the Steelers will beat the heck out of the 49ers and use that as a springboard to a great season. However I still think Purdy deserves all kinds of credit for what he accomplished last year