The 20 Greatest QBs in the history of the NFL

Are you forgetting that Brady started 4 years before Roethlisberger? Then add in all the extra post season games for NWE.

 

Bubby looks like a demon with blacked out eyes.

 

Eyeballing looks like ~ 280 for Ben and ~ 380 for Brady.

Does look right:

Brady 335 G (333 starts). 48 playoffs (all starts).

Ben 249 G (247 starts). 23 playoffs (all starts).

So X-axis does look like games.

But is each data point on the y-axis some QB rating with a value in the 10,000 range (with guys like NOD getting a negative value)?

Or is it maybe some kind of cumulative measure or rolling sum?

Seems like maybe cumulative since everyone seems to start at ~ 0.

Knowing what the data is is important for trying to figure out what it's trying to say.

If it is cumulative QB rating (which I think it is?), then I think it would be the approximate slope of the line that would determine the quality of the QB. FWIW, I think this is why a rolling average would probably be a better way to look at this because then the value is the measure of the quality instead of the instantaneous slope (i.e., derivative)...which I think it harder for us to figure out by just looking at it.

If that's right, the total final values would really just be a proxy for games played (if average per game is positive). And I guess that length of career is a pretty good proxy for how good a QB is.

 

Like just focus on the colours man

 

NOD’s statistics are misleading

If it was third and 7 he would throw a 5 yard out pattern and we would have had to punt

His stat would show him completing a pass for 5 yards

He was not a good quarterback

 

Why did that make me think of mushrooms

 

Honestly don't recall details on the ratings but it seems obvious it is cumulative across games played.

 

Bradshaw led his teams to 4 superbowl victories and yet he's behind guys that have won only one (Manning) or none (Marino and Tarkenton)? Sorry, that list is sh** and the author is an obvious pats fan who pays too much attention to the individual stat line and didn't nearly watch enough live games. .

Brady by the way never had to deal with the punishment Terry or even Ben faced. If Brady had played in the 70’s or 80’s he'd be Ken O’Brien.

 

I agree that he wasn't a great QB.

But I think he was a better passer than Kordell (although Kordell looks better in these graphs). Kordell may have been a better QB though because his mobility was a big advantage. Particularly in a league where that wasn't really that relevant.

Re: NOD, maybe I'm over-indexing on the SB run year vs the rest of his career.

From just the stats, I think the '93 and '95 (SB run) year were both good. But the rest of his career isn't.

 

I think you're right here.

Makes it a little harder to interpret the data than something like rolling average.

Brady has a a dip just before game 320. But then strong positive slop after about 330 (wonder if that's when he went to TB?).

AR's slope turns negative somewhere around 240.

Ben kind of turns negative at the end, but not many negative points. Two kind of flat points. Wonder what happened around game 220 or something. Went from a plateau to a pretty positive slope (then a plateau and a decline...probably after the elbow).