Thanks Landry!

D'OH!!!

 

Never said that. Just can't understand why people are ripping on him and Tomlin when Vick did nothing wrong.

We are at least 1-1 because of Vick, Bell, and the defense (nearrrly 2-0 due to Scobee).

I'll credit the Arizona game to Landry, Martavis, and the defense.

All of a sudden Landry is a god, Tomlin is a BFF, and Vick haters have an excuse to hate. It's a head scratcher!

I don't think anybody will agree. Vick is a scum bag for what he did, but to dwell on it? No thanks. I'm completely content with where the Steelers are, and how they've got there. It goes to show that you can never count them out!

 

I have absolutely zero hate for the guy he doesn't even register on my hate scale. What I did hate was the poor excuse for football that he played for three weeks that people try to make excuses for. If you want to pee on my leg and tell me it is rain than you better come up with better QB play for the roughly eight and a half quarters he played instead of crap. Do you want someone to list off all the things Landry Jones did in limited action last Sunday that Vick didn't do during his three game action? Would that comparison chart show just how horrible it was? I mean I don't know how you can view -6 yards as anything more than a giant load of suck.

 

People aren't ripping Vick they are spelling out just how bad his play was and Tomlin's decision to allow him to continue to be the starter when it was that bad. Landry isn't god but he at least can run the offense, he can connect on basic simple throws that Vick should be able to throw as a Vet and couldn't. No need to be a head scratcher it is simple to see why it was bad and why it was bad coaching to allow it to happen.

 

Actually Vick came in as a reliever in the Rams game and the d held. We lost the Rats game in which he played the entirety. We won the San Diego game. We were going to lose the Cards game but then, mercifully, Vick got hurt, Landry came in, the playbook reopened for business, and one hot read on 3rd, a back shoulder to AB, and 2 td passes later we were victorious. Now we will get to see what Landry can do with a week of preparation with the starters. Out of curiosity, are you willing to say that Landry plays as, ahem, "sub par" as Vick? Or do you think he plays WORSE than Vick this week?

 

I listed a few of them. They have fallen on very few deaf ears but some still remain... Although maybe it's not deaf ears but blind eyes.

 

He still rushed for 50, and maybe that's not what you want from a QB. He laid his fair share of eggs. He tried not doing anything absolutely stupid. His accuracy is horrible, but they were good decisions. He should hit them, but he didn't. He stunk up the cardinals game. He won the chargers game. He gave multiple chances to win the Ravens game. It's football.

The point is more so that Tomlin is a HC for a reason, he played Vick over Jones for a reason, and they are 4-2 for a reason. Landry did play very well and I was shocked, but he's a piece a complicated equation and not the entire solution

 

In regard to Vick, he managed somehow to get us into position for at least one W w/ Ben out. Landry the other.

That's a good outcome to a really bad situation. I'm thankful, that simple.

There is something though, I'm not sure MV wants to be out there anymore. The hunger, that fight, may be all out from the problems he has put himself through. If that's true he he should never see playing time again meaning we need to look for other options as a "just in case".

 

Don't you mean Vick did NOTHING?

 

Well I've narrowed it down. BlackNGold is NOT Mike Tomlin. LOL! Just kidding BNG!

 

Before I jump on this as good news, isn't Vick still hurt? Is Jones 2 by default or from play?

 

I'm not sure the article on NFL.com has Tomlin as being quoted as saying Mike Vick has a chance to be available Sunday which sounds like he has no intention of letting his buddy go quietly into dark night.

 

That's what I was thinking.

 

Landry played much better in the Cards game than he did in the Chiefs game, even though he had a full week to prepare for the Chiefs game. Vick played much better in the Ravens game (even though we lost) than he did in the Chargers game (until the 4th quarter) and the Cards game, even though he had a lot of time to prepare.

I think the game planning is the reason why our backup QBs look pretty bad. I would have expected Jones to at least look pretty good against the Chiefs, and although his total yards was ok, he made too many mistakes and turned it over too many times. That is one thing that Vick did not do.

If you remember the playcalling when Vick was playing, it was painfully handcuffing. They should have had him rolling out, running around, and throwing it long. Instead, we saw a mix of interior running from Bell (which was ok), and little screen and dump-off passes. I am not sure that they designed plays that were aggressive enough for Vicks style. He could have also possibly just not picked up those plays fast enough in practice.

With Jones, we had some deeper passes and they used AB more. He just made mistakes. It was like watching the Texans or Ravens or Dolphins before they got good the past two weeks. A decent team with a crappy QB trying to execute a gameplan that should be reserved for a good QB.

Ben has made his share of mistakes in the past and we should give Landry some leeway, but until he proves that he is more solid and can make better decisions, I feel we are in a situation where we have no real backup QB. Jones looked good to fans because they hated Vick and his play, but that doesn't mean that Jones himself is a viable backup option. I think Grad is back as the backup next year unless Jones makes huge strides.

Final though, what is with the Steelers starting so slow offensively? Go back and look at our games this season. We are hardly scoring TDs until after halftime. I don't think that Haleys scripted playcalling is working in the first half, as we don't actually start to generate points until we are in "comeback mode".

 

Oh my god somebody knows what they are talking about.

 

You don't give up! haha cheers to ya

I just don't see how you are confident in him. Just like when Vick played, I found myself on the edge of my seat gasping for air when he threw the ball.

I just feel like if he played that way against the Cardinals they would have scored 40+. Granted he didn't and good for him, but boy will I be glad to have Ben back.

Everyone be taking the Bengals this week. I guess they don't know the Steelers play to their competition every single year!

 

Perhaps you thought I was advocating for Vick to be starting over Jones, which I clearly was not. My main point was that both Vick and Jones seemed to have regressed as they prepared for games, and were better when they were thrust into action without having much time to prepare. I also said that Vick's best game was against the Ravens, which is undoubtedly true, and he was not the legitimate reason why we lost the game. He was bad in San Diego until the final drive which he did well. Then was really pathetic against the Cards. Jones was great at the end of the Cards game, then seemed to take a step back against the Chiefs, even though he had a week to prepare. I was simply pointing out that trend and suggested that perhaps Haley or whoever is game-planning offensively isn't doing their best job.

As for backup QBs, right now Jones is like Weeden, just smarter. If we had to play a season with Jones, I don't think we make the playoffs. We should make the playoffs with this much talent on the team without our franchise QB. So assuming Ben doesn't miss an entire season, I think a better move is to try to find someone like Batch who can come in for a few games and manage the talented team to be successful and have a greater chance to win. Now, if you look around the league, most teams have crap backup QBs, so we were lucky/spoiled having someone like Batch for so many years. Maybe Jones will develop into a solid backup QB, but I don't see him as one right now. Should he start over Vick? Oh yes. Are we good enough with him at QB for a long term absence of Ben? From what I have seen so far, and especially with the regression that comes from whoever is game-planning, I don't think so.

Bottom line, having to send in our backup QB with our loaded offensive talent should not spell doom for ability to move the ball and generate points. Both Vick and Jones, when having time to prepare for games, did not perform well enough in those games considering the talent we have on offense.

 

See now there is a dude I have respect for... he is not a quitter lol