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Surprising stats on Steelers’ Roethlsiberger, Dupree, pass-rush, O-line

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by LoneGranger, May 15, 2019.

  1. LoneGranger

    LoneGranger Well-Known Member

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    You may want to track this. You may find it interesting.

    Surprising stats on Steelers’ Roethlsiberger, Dupree, pass-rush, O-line
    https://triblive.com/sports/surprising-stats-on-steelers-roethlsiberger-dupree-pass-rush-o-line/

    "Some of the Steelers data was surprising to me. Burke’s numbers indicate the Steelers’ pass protection wasn’t as steady as we may think. Bud Dupree is more effective than we may presume. And the Steelers’ overall pass-rush is more consistent than their boom-or-bust sack totals on a week-to-week basis."

    Interestingly enough you have your flip-side.

    PFF: Pittsburgh Steelers offensive line ranked 1st in 2018

    https://stillcurtain.com/2019/05/15/pff-steelers-oline-ranked-1st-2018/
    "Though the Steelers starting offensive line unit is getting up there in age, they were able to stand together as one of the best and most consistent lines in all of football last year."

    Statistics don't lie. Interpreters of statistics do error. Which is correct? Not which do you want to be correct?
     
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  2. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    Wins and losses are the only stats that mean anything to me.
     
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  3. Smitch89

    Smitch89 Well-Known Member

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    Same here.. And super bowls.. Don't care about Ben's first ever 5,000 yard season or dud Dupree being stastically Better than ppl think when it doesn't equate to s***
     
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  4. thesteeldeal

    thesteeldeal Well-Known Member

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    Stats lie all the time and most times barely tell half the story....
     
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  5. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    get used to it buddy, not trying to be a Tomlin basher but we will not win another SB with him. Tomlin sucks, he's a fraud and a cheerleader. He is a waste of space imo and maybe waste of life. Not trying to be mean though.

    lol jk. 31 teams equal failure every year then, with patriots having only a 50% failure rate in your terms.
     
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  6. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I have statistics that disprove that theory. I also have statistics that prove that you’re right. Since they each only tell half the story, it’s 50/50 whether you’re right or not. Statistically speaking, of course.
     
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  7. Smitch89

    Smitch89 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with your entire opening paragraph lol
     
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  8. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Statistics are there to manipulate things to your point of view.
     
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  9. AFan

    AFan Well-Known Member

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    I always loved this quote: "Numbers lie with a straight face that words would never assume"

    I'm an engineer, so numbers and statistics and the debate thereof is my life. Liars that lie, can lie with words and they can lie with numbers. That doesn't make the words, numbers or stats invalid, they are merely tools that get used or abused.
     
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  10. 69-2now

    69-2now Well-Known Member

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    Here's a stat, 9-7 that should have easily been 13-3.
     
  11. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    And the 13-3 the previous year could have easily been 9=7 or 8-8. When you constantly put yourself in need of last second heroics, you are not as good or bad as your record, just average.
     
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  12. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I noticed stats always lie when it blows up another persons argument. :shrug:
     
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  13. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    Holy cow!!


    The evidence to support said stats in a one sided argument the same?! You have NEVER lied about that!!!
     
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  14. Iowasteeljim

    Iowasteeljim

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    Did you guys know that statistics show that a certain percentage of posters believe one thing, and a certain percent believe another. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I can assure you that I'm in the percentage that believes I know what I'm talking about.
     
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  15. SteelerGlenn

    SteelerGlenn

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    Except we were 9-6-1
     
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  16. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    just like at home with the wife but not long after I'm made aware that I'm in the percentage that is always wrong.:cool:
     
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  17. 69-2now

    69-2now Well-Known Member

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    Purt near the same thang.
     
  18. AFan

    AFan Well-Known Member

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    There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who believe in binary and those who don't.
     
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  19. jeh1856

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    Now that’s funny.
     
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  20. AFan

    AFan Well-Known Member

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    I could do an obscure joke about Pope John Paul II saving a aircarft that was having flight control difficulties by changing the seating of his fellow countrymen. Because every control engineer knows you can stabilize a controller by moving the poles to the left hand side of the plane. But that joke has a very, very, limited audience. Knowledge of LaPlace Transforms is required.
     
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  21. jeh1856

    jeh1856

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    About 30 years ago, I was actually a part of a group that was navigating a plane by walking around in it. LT wasn't required.

    But point taken.
     
  22. thesteeldeal

    thesteeldeal Well-Known Member

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    I’m pretty dumb and I get both of them. Sorry I don’t know what that says about you guys...:shrug:;)
     
  23. jeh1856

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    We’re pretty dumb?

    :drinks:
     
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  24. LoneGranger

    LoneGranger Well-Known Member

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    You forgot to say ignorance is bliss.
     
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  25. LoneGranger

    LoneGranger Well-Known Member

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    And they land men on the moon.
     

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