Steven Jackson anyone

But you never know with players. Look at the season Peterson has had coming back from injury compared to Mendenhall's lot of that is team needs but alot of it is just genetics. Again I don't think they can get Jackson because of money problems elsewhere but it doesn't mean they can't inquire and look we are having a good discussion about the RB position. In my opinion they need to look at guys that maybe considered going downhill and who could fit into a system that helps the team and the player. No guy should be off limits. Lots of teams out there may be looking to clear their rosters with a regime change. Is Carolina going to keep Tolbert? I liked him as a real wrecking ball but don't think he fit into Carolina's plans. What are they going to do with their RB's. Green is looking to be done in NY, Wells in Arizona, there are some middle of the road guys out there that could be had cheap if the Steelers find themselves looking at just Batch and Rainy heading into the draft.

 

I think a lot of the reason you can't have a really productive discussion on here is probably because so many threads get put up about guys that have been cut or are free agents or whatever and a lot of them really would be of no value to us and so Jackson becomes sort of guilty by association. I have nothing personally against Jackson but even you pointed out that we have guys that are UFA's and about to be so we need to try and look for Mr. Right and not just Mr. Right Now. That's all I'm saying. If there are some good prospects coming this year maybe we should try and get them. You know Colbert's philosophy is "best player available" when he picks so if a RB is who they think is the best I think they'll take him. I personally want a corner but that's just me. I personally wanted Asante Samuel who went to Atlanta and had a great year but we just couldn't afford him. But when I brought him up I don't think anyone shared my affection for him. That's just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. Like I said I like Greg Jennings but I've not even bothered starting a thread about him because a lot of these are just really unproductive and devolve in to people arguing about things that have nothing to do with the original intent ya know.

 

Steven Jackson will want to be paid, and I don't think
the Steelers are wanting to PAY this type of money to a back
that has lots of milage on him. I will say this, the Steelers
will have to address the RB situation, I personally think Mendy will
be gone.

 

So how old was Duce "Stanley"? He had a few good games and then served Gator-Ade on the sidelines. Of course you can never have enough beverage attendants in the NFL.

 

I'd only be interested if we let Redman go.

 

According to ESPN Jackson is mulling retirement.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8784585/steven-jackson-st-louis-rams-says-retirement-possible

 

I don't care what RB is available because nobody no matter how good is going to run well here until the oline gets fixed. How would an Adrian Peterson or Arian Foster look if the played for the Steelers? We would be looking for new talent because RBs can't be expected to gain yards when they are consistantly hit 3 yards deep in the backfield.

 

This right here. But I'd substitute 'fixed' with 'healthy.' They've got some nice pieces, they just need to keep off of the injury report.

 

Uh...I dont like the idea...Dont sign him.....JMO...I dont think we should sign a old RB to a overpriced contract for what a year,maybe 2? When we can draft a top 5 RB out of this draft?.....

 

adams is a mauler of a Run Blocker...id keep him at RT...

 

But I do know, and that's the thing. Do I know what Steven Jackson will do next year? No, of course not, but if you look at the history of the position, a 30+ year old RB isn't normally overly effective. Combine that with SJax being a bruiser who has had a ton of carries, and you got a guy who in all likelihood is completely finished. History does have a way of repeating itself, and once RB's hit 30, it's all but over for them. Most just can't do it anymore, their legs just won't cooperate.

There's talk in here of SJax wanting to get paid, I don't think that's the problem at all. Nobody is going to pay him a lot of money, and there won't be a huge market for him anyway. He's going to have to settle for a lot less or retire, because teams are rightfully scared away from RB's of his age. Look how fast Shaun Alexander went downhill. Seemingly happened overnight and he was one of the leagues best.

 

Its not some strange rule...its a proven fact that RBs hit the wall at around age 30 because of the pounding they take not sure what league you have been watching... The Rbs that are still playing at that age are not every down backs or are the exception...

On average, the running backs saw a decline in rushing yards by approximately seventeen percent from their average in their seasons at age twenty-eight and twenty-nine to the season during which they were thirty. Furthermore, the running backs saw an additional decline in rushing yards of nearly fifteen percent from their age thirty seasons to their age thirty-one seasons. Those two seasons of age thirty and thirty-one show net a drop off of approximately twenty-eight percent from the age twenty-nine seasons.

In addition to a decline in rushing yards, the NFL’s all-time best running backs also scored well fewer touchdowns. As Cockcroft (2008) notes, “Those all-time great running backs lost 20.4 percent of their touchdown production from their age-29 to age-30 seasons. Then, they lost another 13.7 percent from their age-30 to age-31 seasons and 11.9 percent more from age 31 to age 32. In a matter of three years, from their age-29 through age-32 seasons, history's greatest running backs lost 39.5 percent of their touchdown production.”The reason for the decline in performance by running backs after they turn thirty is most directly related to the decline in necessary skills after the athlete has reached his physical peak. While some other skills may be improved upon in order to maintain or even improve performance after their physical peak at age twenty-five, the most important factors in a running back are the purely physical characteristics such as speed, quickness, explosiveness, and power.

Furthermore, running backs take much more of a physical beating over the course of an NFL season than any other skill position players. While the best wide receivers in the league may catch 100 passes in a season, the top running backs will carry the ball 250 – 350 times or more. Additionally, when a running back carries the ball, he is almost always hit and tackled by multiple large defenders, whereas a wide receiver will often be tackled by one small (as compared to linemen and linebackers) defensive back or simply run out of bounds.

 

Not interested in Jackson the Steelers can find a rb in the draft. The Redskins found their rb in the 6th rd Alfred Morris and he's in the top 5 rushers of the NFL.

 

I didn't state that there wasn't ample evidence or that I don't watch football, or even that you are wrong. The point of the original message and the point you highlighted is that before they even consider the idea people immediately dismiss it because of "some strange rule" they have about being over 30. I am not disputing the fact that yes many of the every down backs decline after 30 especially if they break into the league in their early 20's and carry the load. NOt disputing that fact but I am saying to dismiss any potential free agent who could have a role on the team because you see RB and age 30 or 30+ is a strange rule. I am not in any way shape or form claiming that Jackson isn't going to decline rapidly or that any back over 30 isn't my point is that each circumstance is unique and it shouldn't stop a team like the Steelers from inquiring about any back and what role they see themselves having just because of their age.

 

why do you keep referring to it as a strange rule? It is a proven fact Rbs at age 29 ish tend to break down... there are a few backs that are a bit productive because they are not every down backs or are a rare exception. The only one I can think of is mcgahee ...and you see how his season ended up?

no thanks to 30+ rbs and the high priced free agent...besides this argument is null because there is a 0% chance s-jax will be in pittsburgh

 

I am not referring to the RB, the evidence of decline after 30 or the facts I don't know how much clearer I can be. I am referring to fans who have a rule that being over 30 disqualifies a RB from consideration for a job. It is like saying you are looking for a wife but only want to date redheads who are 5'2 weigh 90 pounds and are from Iowa. Do you see what I am saying. Now while if you had a team any don't look at any RB's over 30 that is fine, I will look at all players as potentially helping my team and see what happens. You have your approach, I have mine.

 

the reason why is because they break down at that age...its no "rule" its a proven fact...

 

Now that Rainey is gone its almost a must we sign a free agent rb like Steven Jackson

 

I don't really think those two are comparable whatsoever. Losing Rainey doesn't change anything in regards to signing a power back like Jackson. Besides, Jackson is likely finished. There's a reason he's mulling retirement

 

I prefer my 5' 2" redheads from Iowa to be more around 110 pounds. (90 is just to thin)