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Steelers Head Coach Mike Tomlin Reportedly Has Full Control Over Roster Decisions

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, May 18, 2025.

  1. AskQuestionsLater

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    Regarding Tomlin?! I'd imagine that he has input over how the roster is constructed but not to the full 100% that Gerry is alluding to. For that matter, Nick Sirianni had full control of both Coaching and Roster Decisions in 2023 and it nearly set the Eagles back after reaching the Super Bowl a year earlier. Howie had to step in; namely with both Offensive and Defensive Coordinator hires.


    While I don't doubt Tomlin has had some some in Coaching Hires himself, his most notable being Karl Dunbar, Eddie Faulkner and Alfredo Roberts, someone like Arthur Smith, Scott McCurley, Tom Arth and Zach Azzanni?! Those seem to be more of both Khan than Tomlin.


    Overall, Tomlin does have more input but the final decision I believe is still collective as a whole. There are some notable exceptions in recent years; AR II wanting Najee Harris in 2021. Beyond that?! Not too many other extremes.
     
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  2. Steelersfan43

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    You can lose but still be ready to play, but when you're down by at least 21 points for six playoff games in a row and nothing changes, that's a red flag. Being competitive is the minimum standard you have to be and the Steelers haven't been able to be that in the last 6 playoff games.

    You also ignored me when I said that the Immaculate Reception in 1972 was one of the most memorable playoff wins in NFL history even though they didn't make the Super Bowl that year.

    I know you're going to be stubborn about this no matter what, and I know you're going to change the criteria if a team like the Bills goes to the Super Bowl next season.

    Last year, it was only the games in your division that mattered, but I haven't heard that from you this year for some reason.
     
  3. S.T.D

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    What the heck difference does it make if You lose, by 2, or 20??? This is some new younger generation thing I suppose. In my day You won, or You didn't..there was no comfort in how You lost.
    I didn't ignore the immaculate reception. It was a statement not a question.....what was I supposed to say....., but if You wanted an answer.....here.....It was a playoff win by a team that had never won anything.......big difference.....We are not the 1972 Steelers.....We have won 6 SBs, and been to 8 SB since that time, so I thought it made little sense to be bringing it up. Now if we were the Browns who had never won anything since the beginning of the SB , then it would have made more sense.
    For the 50000th time .....there is no stepping stone in the playoffs.....for as many teams that you show that have each year gotten farther, and made the SB, I can show You 5 that hasn't.
     
  4. S.T.D

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    No those are facts. What did I say that was opinion???
    If You lose by 2, or 20, you still lose.....is that opinion, or facts???
    We have won 6 SB, and been to 8 SBs since the 1972 Immaculate Reception, is that facts , or opinions???
    That I can name 5 teams that didn't get better every year into the playoffs to every one team You show as a playoff stepping stone to the SB, is that fact , or opinions???
    LoL
    I believe we really know the answer.
     
  5. Steelersfan43

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    This is only your opinion but It doesn't change that the Steelers have their biggest drought without playoff wins since before Noll and they are just a .500 team including the playoffs since our 11-0 start (39-38-1).

    The Steelers had gone 26 years without a Super Bowl win at one point, but they were often in the hunt for the Super Bowl especially from 1994. The more often you're in the hunt, the more chances you have of winning by one point. There's no guarantee, since nothing is guaranteed, but the odds are much better.
     
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  6. SGSteeler

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    I can agree with almost everything except the lose by 2 or 20 and that it doesn't matter.... Yes, it still counts as a loss all the same either way, but when you repeatedly get blown out in these games it get pretty old and shows a greater concern for how prepared our team was to compete. If we played well and lost, it is an easier pill to swallow for most than to basically be ready to turn the game off at halftime. Sometimes teams get blown out. It happens.... but for it to happen as frequently as it does to us in the playoffs is more than a slight concern.
     
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  7. Steelersfan43

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    fact but it's more embarrassing when it happens in every playoff game

    Who said it was not fact?


    Possible but how many of those have been as good that a team like the BIlls have been in the last 5 years?...Not that many....The Jets were good for 2 years in 2009 and 2010(they were also lucky in 2009)but they were not good before and after and Mark Sanchez was just terrible


    The biggest fact,this is the steelers are a .500 team since our 11-0 start...Fact or opinions?

     
  8. S.T.D

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    See, and that's where we differ. I'm more upset at a 1, 2, 3, or one score point loss than at a blowout..
    For example.....no playoff game in my knowledge pissed me off mote than the game against the Chargers in the AFC Championship, and I believe that was a 4 point game
     
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  9. S.T.D

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    You can't pick who is lucky, and who isn't to fit Your narrative. I hate to tell you this, but almost all teams that make it to the SB are very lucky at times throughout the season, and post season.
    Again I can give 5 for every example you make. Look no farther than the A. Rodgers lead Packers, after their SB....from along time ago..... they had been to the NFC Championship 4 after , yet somehow the magical stepping stone you talk about to make the SB, crumbled under their feet, year , after year, after year.
    I got many , many , many more examples.
     
  10. SGSteeler

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    Possibly. I can see the POV of it pissing you off more because there was a chance to win and it got the hopes up. You can sit back and accept defeat in a blowout much earlier and it won't rile you up as much post game (plus the glaring mistake that loses the game isn't as amplified when you lose by 20).

    As a golfer, I could at least learn from losing close. It feels better to play well, put yourself in contention, and work on getting yourself over the top into the winner's column. You don't learn anything from shooting 75 and playing yourself out of the tournament instantly (other than you didn't play well that day). You feel further away from the end goal (winning) and it seems like a more insurmountable achievement. You get into a couple close ones, and it feels like victory is right at your fingertips. I'd much prefer to lose close than lose by a million. Of course, I'd prefer to not lose at all.... but you can't win them all.
     
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  11. S.T.D

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    I can on say how it makes me feel..
    I don’t want to lose any of them,, but I don’t feel better either way if we lose. I honestly can't ever remember thinking in the playoffs, well we only lost by 3, and feeling better. JMO.
     
  12. Steelersfan43

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    I mean,do you remember in 2009 when the 14-0 Colts rest their starter against the Jets and the Jets make the playoffs because of that?

    Problem for the packers,they stick with Dom Capers for way too long even if their defense was awful every year in the playoffs after 2010,similar to us
     
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    2015 vs Broncos....
     

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