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Steelers Head Coach Mike Tomlin Reportedly Has Full Control Over Roster Decisions

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, May 18, 2025 at 9:19 AM.

  1. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    Nice rant :thumbs_up:
     
  2. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    Cowher built that culture, leadership and personnel. You could have done what MT did.
     
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  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I know, hes got 20 years on the team. He’s one of the exceptions to the rule.
     
  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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  5. SteelerGlenn

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    I’m thinking Mike Tomlin has full control over some people‘s every thought.
     
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  6. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    At least when it comes to the Steelers I agree. Nothing else matters as long as little Mikey is in charge.
     
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  7. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    I’m comparing your football knowledge and acumen to the great first ballot HOF HC Mikey T. You should be flattered.
     
  8. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    You probably confused him

    It happens
     
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  9. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Then I should be getting paid like Tomlin ;)
     
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  10. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    You and the rest of the board :rolleyes:
     
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  11. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    That’s it

    Take everyone on :thumbs_up:
     
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  12. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Nah, just you :eek:
     
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  13. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    Thanks for the kind offer but my mom raised me not to pick on the challenged
     
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  14. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    That's good you won't pick up on yourself then :eek:, now run along with your nonsense.
     
  15. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    Nice try but no cigar

    You and Scrible have a lot in common
     
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  16. We need a change

    We need a change Well-Known Member

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    Unless the Coach is writing the checks, they don’t have full control, just like who gets to start on Sunday. If a player is making $40 million per year, he’s gonna be on the field. The Coach can be mad at him and can issue any punishment he want except not playing for that 2.5 million dollar weekly game check.
     
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  17. SGSteeler

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    I agree with the first statement. I don't with the second.

    I don't think MT is a scrub, but he certainly hasn't showed he is anything more than a very average NFL coach over the past 10-15 years. He looked like a sure fire HOF'er his first 5 years and he's looked like Marvin Lewis since then. However... You can't discount those accomplishments simply because Cowher built the culture, leadership, and personnel. They still had to win, and they won as a team (HC included). Maybe any competent NFL HC could've done what MT did with that team, but not any scrub could've done it.
     
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  18. SGSteeler

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    How many clown memes do you have? Do you keep them in a folder for the right time? LMAO
     
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  19. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    Yes
    No
     
  20. james weyandt

    james weyandt Well-Known Member

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    I really doubt Tomlin has full control over the signings and everything ...Why isn't he-- THE GM Coach then ---I'm hearing---- BULL-:poopy:---:icon bs::icon bs::icon bs::doh::sigh::swoon::swoon:
     
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  21. james weyandt

    james weyandt Well-Known Member

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    Yep it was all Cowhers players not Tomlins who won Superbowl for Tomlin:hehehe::lolol::roflmao::roflmao::thumbs up::dancing::applaud::thumbs_up::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
     
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  22. Thor

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    I would say it was the league's continued evolution into a passing league contributed to Tomlin's plateau as well. When we think of Ben's prime years it's easy to think Tomlin embraced a passing offense, but he really didn't. Arians was an aggressive downfield attacking OC and was pushed out in favor of Haley, to install a shorter passing attack and minimize wear and tear on Ben. From there they moved to Finchtner, Canada, and Smith.

    He's also gotten more conservative on defense. Tomlin comes from more of a Tampa-2 background and doesn't seem to be comfortable with the 3-4 Blitzburgh - type of scheme. He stays with a mix of 3-4 and 4-2-5, and while most years the defense has been solid through the regular season, it's not as dynamic and come the playoffs teams will scheme against it and neutralize his key players. It's why people complain about Watt "disappearing" in the playoffs.
     
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  23. SGSteeler

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    Well said. Though, I just think the modern offense in general is what has passed Tomlin by. We don't seem particularly willing to get creative or innovative. Tomlin is comfortable in a risk-averse, run-centric scheme and we've paid the price for it. Both Arians and Haley were good OC's, but Fichtner and Canada were abject disasters. Defensively you're pretty spot on. He seems very reliant on his "stars being stars" and leaves some of the creativity and scheme out the window.

    It boils down to delegation to me. Tomlin is a player's coach through and through. His strongest points are motivation and the adoration of his players. He seems to struggle with his hires, and because of it, he is asked to do too much in terms of directing and "babysitting" both the offensive and defensive unit. He thrives when he can leave those units to accomplished coordinators, which frees him up to do what he's best at. Unfortunately we've pretty much had D or F hires for a while now (it coincides with our playoff drought). Butler and Austin have been no good. Fichtner and Canada have been worse. Until we put a decent staff in place, I think we're stuck with what we've got.
     
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  24. Bubbahotep

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    That comparison hurts, but unfortunately spot on other than MT can win in the regular season, unlike Lewis' spotty record. The playoff futility under Tomlin is numbing. I mean, they haven't really been competitive and yet Tomlin's 'process' stays the same year after year; play strong defense, slow the game down, win the close game at the end. Fine for the regular season, but a terrible strategy in the postseason.
     
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  25. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    I sometimes wonder if the Steelers pay isn't competitive as a cause for the poor coaching staff hires? Reportedly, Philly pays a boatload to their OC and DC. Rooney either cannot afford it, or refuses to pay top salary other than to the HC.
     

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