Steelers Have Extended Maurkice Pouncey

I don't like it. No way he should be paid an 8 mil avg over the next 6 years. No way he should be highest paid center in NFL. There's no basis for making that case so why? Who's leading the negotiations and wasting valuable cap money? Omar? Rooney? Colbert? Poor cap management is why we stay in poor cap situations year in and year out.

Yes I wanted to lock him up long term but not at this cost. I used to hold my breath every time Omar was up for a GM job elsewhere. I now hope he gets one soon so he'll quit ruining ( if it is him ) our cap.

CAJUN-

 

I might be wrong

butt
me thinks your green ink is dry

 

Colbert signs the players and makes the decisions. Your beef is with him. Omar manipulates the money. He does a fabulous job. You've probably read that this is a team-friendly contract. It's basically like a two or three year deal, if something goes wrong. We can cut him after that if we need to. And he's 24 years old. He's already made a remarkable return from his injury. Play-wise, he'll be fine.

I see a lot of people saying he's a top 5 or top 8 center, but not the #1 center. Well, in this league, you don't just get to say, "I'm going to pay you like the #8 player at your position." New contracts go to the top. Romo, Flacco, Kaepernick. Not the best QBs, just the most recently signed. In a couple years (and certainly by the time it is up), Pouncey's contract will be the 5th or 8th biggest. You can't just slot him where you want. You pay top dollar, or watch him walk. It's like that with every top-tier player. Now, we certainly could have let him walk and taken the 3rd round comp (which is actually what I thought they would do), but this contract is not so bad, and the team values him a lot more than the fans and PFF.

Every year people complain about Omar ruining our cap, and every year he weasels his way out of it. This year we signed a FA to a $25M contract. Now the cap is going up considerably for the foreseeable future. We can't go on a spending spree, but we are cleaning out vets and getting younger. It's happening.

 

Did I really just read

"fabulous" and "Omar"

together?


I must be in south beach again

 

the contract is fine

the player

actually sucks ass


front office is
DELIRIOUS

DOO DOO DOO DAH DOO DOO


oh how I love my PRINCE

 

I am with you Cajun, apparently his player evaluation
skills are not good either (No one hires him).
Sort of like Pouncey overated.Who is watching the watchers?LOL

 

You have no idea what you're talking about. That's not an insult. You just have no idea what you're talking about. You don't know anything about Omar Khan's evaluation skills, or why he hasn't changed jobs. You're just making big assumptions.

 

1.Our horrendous line began it's turnaround the day we drafted Pouncey
2.Until last year, when our own man took him out from behind, he had missed 3 games in 54.
3. Not best pass defender but of the best in run and overall performance is up there league wide.
4. Salary fair comparatively. Guaranteed money is what matters not gross.
5. Through life of contract, in 3 yrs +/-, displacement will put him in the 5-9 pay range.

We pay, keep & lock him up for our long run.
It's the smart play. IMO

 

Agree. For his pass protection, it's worth noting that he's had crappy players next to him for most of his career. Kemoeatu, Essex, Legursky... The best he's had is Foster, who has come along slowly and only been as good as he is in recent years, and he's not much of a pass protector - his strengths are in the running game. Then you have DeCastro, who wasn't much in the only games he's played with Pouncey, especially against the pass rush.

I haven't done a detailed evaluation of him since 2011, but in that year (and what I've casually noticed in other years) it seemed like any struggles he had in pass protection came while he was flying around trying to bail out his teammates. He very rarely just got beaten or driven back. Playing alongside a strong DeCastro and Foster at his best (and hopefully someone better than Foster in the future - maybe Johnson?) will make Pouncey a better pass protector. Plus, he's had the same mess of rotating mediocre OL coaches that everyone else has. Now he has Munchak. An All Pro and Pro Bowler every year of his career, and I believe we still haven't seen the very best Pouncey has to offer.

 

No, I have said I have no problem extending the man, the problem is with what we paid him. You guys get hot and bothered when people don't
agree with you. Why is that? Who said the Steelers are run by Schnooks? What ever that means?All I have said is Omar might not be
as great as some of us thinks he is. He still
hasn't landed a GM position?

 

Wait a minute, aren't you the guy that said Mike Wallace is better than AB?
How 's come no job offers for Omar? Has he not interviewed for multiple jobs?

 

Sorry Im a little late to the conversation...just got back from vacation. I will just say I dont love this and move on.

 

No, that wasn't me. That hasn't been my opinion since early 2011. If you don't believe me, you're welcome to look back through my posts and see if you can find where I said that. There are plenty of threads with this debate, and I was involved in most of them. Mike Wallace definitely is better than AB at certain things. But please, continue to make stuff up to say about me and then bring it into completely unrelated conversations because you don't have a real answer.

There are lots of possible reasons for anyone not taking a job. There are lots of reasons to go on an interview, even if you're not sure you want the job. You act like he's dying to get out of here and be a GM anywhere, even if it means working for the Rams or Dolphins or Rex Ryan. It's possible he was offered a job and turned it down. It's possible he was not offered a job. I, myself, have asked what exactly makes him even qualified to interview for a GM job, considering his work is primarily finance, and his experience evaluating players seems limited to association. But I asked. I didn't just say, "Boy he really stinks at that." Because, you know, that would mean I was making stuff up.

 

to be fair omar does have a background in player evaluation and a degree in sports management.

 

Good. That makes more sense. But not with the Steelers, right? He must have been very young.

 

Tulane and new oleans. interim scout while he went to grad school for the saints and then full time. he worked his way up through the ranks learning as he went. Colbert coached baseball mostly. omar has worked towards the goal of being a GM. how much knowledge he has is anyones guess at this point, but he's a sharp guy and he has come a long way working hard at this craft. he's more than just a numbers guy.

 

Thanks for doin' the leg work

 

no problem my friend.

 

If I remember correctly, he wanted more of a say so in some teams aspects and some owners didn't want to give him some controls? Seems like I read that last year......

 

You know I am dam tired of you telling me what I should worry about. Who am I disrespecting? You think these multi millionaires
read or care what we people say on this board
or any board. I have never attacked anybody personally on this board, If i have, I am sorry. As for Kahn, maybe he hurt the team also by over paying? Not able to sign other players that was so properly said by Steel Elvis.

 

I think OK is told who they want to keep and asked how he can make those numbers work. he doesn't do this on his own.

yes he wants player say so, and not just being a numbers cruncher. does he want to and can he do both jobs? good question but everybody starts somewhere.

he's come up through the ranks learning and doing the player evaluation process and I'm sure he still does some of that working closely with the front office and the scouting department. all these people work closely together with the rooney's, from Colbert on down to the scouts. he is well aware of the process to get players as well as Colbert is. maybe better, maybe worse. that's yet to be seen from him. or at least written about if he helps do that here now.