Steelers going after William Jackson III

Yes...for some reason people think if You run a zone concept....that means everyone on the field is playing zone. Hell I've seen us run zone one side man the other.
If He can help us at all ...well ....Welcome to the Steelers . I said before the season started We needed another CB

 

He's having a bad season for the first time, oh well we will get a top 10 draft pick, which is exactly what this team needs.

 

Enough to go to 3 SBs ...Win 2....with 2 different Head Coaches.....So .....More than every Qb in the Entire History of the NFL except about 9 different Qbs. Does that answer Your Question????

 

Nope, when was the last time the Steelers got off to a fast start in the playoffs, instead of having to play from behind.

 

Ben was never the problem. Tomlin isn’t having a bad season. He is a bad coach. Every year until he gets fired will look like this because he sucks

 

I was just throwing down a vanilla example of a contract restructure/extension to show how the 2023 dollars would play. I would obviously expect some nuances worked in to add incentive. My point was, as you stated here and I said above, risky move.

I get the idea that he and his agent might agree to scrap the current contract after this season, but I don't know how likely it is. I suppose there's a chance they'd entertain it. I know he worked with Austin in Cincinnati, not sure how close they were. But if he cuts a place for himself in Pittsburgh the ball would certainly be in his court.

 

+1 for admitting. And truth is we all truly don't know. We've seen trades that you think would be a lot and ended up being for nothing.

 

raccoons are related to bears so you weren't really wrong either way!

 

Because the only problem is the coach. When the chosen one throws multiple interceptions it’s the coach.

 

I saw analysts that rated the clay pool trade a B+ for us and Jackson trade a B. Not bad

 

the terrible podcast rates the jackson trade worse. jackson costs us 3 mill this year for a couple of games and may or may not be worth it. he is due a roster bonus of 3 mill in march then would cost 9 mill in dead money to cut. 9 million is what joe haden cost us at his peak. him being worth 12 million is unlikely and we would pay that to keep him

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...draft-him-in-2016-i-thought-it-was-happening/

At the very least, he seems to have a good attitude and wants to be with the Steelers.

 

So does he still have the speed he did coming out?

He was a 4.3 guy.

 

Probably not at His age, but if He hasn't lost an abundance of speed....experience should help.

 

First time? I'd label 2012 and 2013 bad seasons.

 

So it must be true

The salary part after this year isn’t even a factor that will either be cut or a new contract either way not even a factor

We got an experienced CB with a few miles left in the tires

If he turns out good or bad swapping late draft picks is a small cost compared

 

He's had more bad seasons than good. Given the talent levels the first 8+ years he was HC, the dearth of playoff wins after that initial SB victory is pathetic.

He isn't showing any ability to adapt and make changes when needed. Now that talent is below average, we'll be a top 5 drafting team for a few years given our awful coaching. I just hope our new GM isn't equally awful (so far, I am cautiously optimistic).

We need a new HC/OC and possibly DC. It was time two years ago.

 

I know you love Ben and all, but good lord man. Ben was 9 of 20 something with two picks in the first one. Played okay in the second. Two more interceptions including a pick 6 in the third. Which we lost by 6 points. Since 2010 how has he faired in the playoffs? How many times did he turn the ball over in the first quarter against the browns?

 

We are playing a lot of man coverage this year.

 

Ben was not the problem. Ben was an elite QB. You can not say that about Tomlin.

 

You’re correct I can not say Tomlin was an elite quarterback.hate to break it to you, but Ben hadn’t played like an elite qb in a few years. There were flashes here and there, but consistently game to game? No

 

$9 million if we cut him and $12 million if we keep him.. not a factor?

 

Context My Friend.
So since Peyton Manning, and Ben have almost identical SB stats what's that say? Yet one of those went in His young 2nd year.
There is a reason only 9 other Qbs in the History of the NFL have been to more.
So while You think I Love Him....I'm just going....Hmmm....since only 9 Qbs in the History of the NFL have done better..

also some of those 9 Qbs had worse SB performances....I don't think You appreciate Him enough....., but unless We get lucky, and You stay a fan.....You will.....You will

 

Oh I appreciate him, but he’s not without his warts. He wasn’t perfect by any stretch of the imagination. Let’s not forget for a lot of his career we had outstanding defenses and that played a huge role in our success as well.

 

Of course He had warts.....I really can't think of a Qb without any at all.
No Qb does it on their own....Never has, and never will Be. I can't think of one Qb that won a SB without a great team around them.....Now I have seen great Qbs lose SBs without great teams....., but I've never seen one win without one.