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Steelers going after William Jackson III

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blitz, Nov 1, 2022.

  1. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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  2. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    They can easily sit him down at the end of the year and say they want to keep him but they can’t pay him $13m. If he has any self awareness at all he will know that no team is giving him that kind of money ever again. If he does well he may play for a contract similar to what Wallace and Witherspoon have.
     
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  3. Animus

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    If he plays well, sign him to an extension. If he sucks, cut him before March 17th. Seems like a pretty good deal for the Steelers.
     
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  4. Wardismvp

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    I hope he is better than the DB's we brought in thru FA this past year.
     
  5. biggbunch68

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    And? ,. I'm telling them now it was a mistake they traded him
     
  6. Jammasterc

    Jammasterc Well-Known Member

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    Is this a done deal?
    I didn’t see any solid news yesterday.
     
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  7. WNYFAN

    WNYFAN Well-Known Member

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    This is only a good move if they can also pickup William Jackson ll
     
  8. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    All the reports are the Steelers traded a conditional 6th round pick in the 2025 draft for Jackson and a 7th round pick in the 2025 draft.
     
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  9. Karl

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    He does have a back injury.
    So, it may actually be conditional.

    So, from my sources directly with the team... He was injured, but Rivera used it as the reason he was benched.
    From that, I would assume he could clear medical. But I still think Pittsburgh wants their own eval. (Rightly so)
     
  10. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Beer is good

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    I see Brice coming with another conspiracy theory on the lack of a physical
     
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  11. Formerscribe

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  12. SteelerGlenn

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    And you were wrong
     
  13. iganinja23

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    Really shouldn't have traded for him and that salary when Washington was probably going to release him today.
     
  14. biggbunch68

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    On rare occasions
     
  15. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Beer is good

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    I thought I was wrong once but it turns out I was mistaken
     
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  16. Thor

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    Well, sure. What you're essentially describing is the extension negotiation should they want to keep him beyond 2022. The Steelers would hold some leverage since they're not on the hook for any prorated bonus money and could thus cut him ahead of his roster date and be free of the entirety of his $12.75MM. But there would still be risks involved negotiating that amount into something more feasible.

    As an example, signing Jackson to a three-year extension that re-works the $12.75MM into vet minimum salaries of $1.2MM while converting the rest to signing bonus yields a $4.25MM APY, which aligns with the $4MM APY of Wallace and Witherspoon. But Jackson is also three years older, entering 2023 at 31, and has already experienced some injury and performance issues (not that Wallace and Witherspoon haven't had some of the latter themselves).

    Not that it couldn't work, just risky.
     
  17. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Beer is good

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    The more I look at this the more I realize I look like the panda

    Trivia: a panda is not actually a bear they are more closely related to raccoons

    Edit apparently my information was old

    they are related to bears
     
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  18. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn’t be offering to restructure his deal, or at least not all of it. A simple reduced salary with minimal guarantees is what I was thinking if they want to keep him. You could work in roster bonuses etc for later years if he keeps playing well.

    If you restructure the way you’ve described above he has no incentive whatsoever to stay after the first year, not that he would be expected to have much of a market, but say he retires or get injured etc. The bonuses accelerate and you’re left with a lot of dead cap for a low upside player that you are just looking to fill a gap really. Not worth the risk for somebody like him imo.

    He is massively overpaid for 2023 at $13m. He won’t sniff that kind of money in free agency if he is cut so if he fits well in the Steelers system it would make sense for both parties to sit down and hammer out a sensible and fair deal to keep him based on current market value.

    He has already made a lot of money so it depends on how much he wants to keep playing as well I guess given that he is on the wrong side of 30 and has had some injuries.
     
  19. strummerfan

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    Apparently that isn’t true. They did some molecular studies and decided the panda was in fact a bear
     
  20. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Beer is good

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    Thank you

    It’s been about 40 years since I read the info I provided
     
  21. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I haven’t charted his plays, but it seems to me that his really bad play occurs mainly in man coverage. He’s seemingly always trailing without having the change of direction ability and short area quickness to make up the gap in time.
     
  22. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    I only looked because of your post. Had never heard that raccoon thing. Sure enough there was a belief they were more closely related to raccoons than bears, but technology got in the way
     
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  23. steelersrule6

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    I will admit I probably said that in some of the threads.
     
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  24. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    How often did that HOF QB play like one in the playoffs :shrug:?
     
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  25. hmmmmm

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    How is your HOF coach doing without a HOF QB?
     

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