Steelers Coaches Have Double-Called Defenses

Any suitable candidates to replace Butler?


While I personally like Butler, should this season be another one of woes in relations to aspects like the rush defense or communication breakdowns, I would question him then.

 

If there is s communication problem, naturally it goes back to coaching.

I read that article twice and other than the headline, I’m not sure I’m seeing where it’s said different coaches called different defenses. Are the defensive plays called into one player? Is that the same person who then calls alignments or adjustments? Was that Shazier and it got worse when he went out? Was it Mitchell who didn’t know what he was doing let alone everyone else?

I remember with Bostic and Burnett, when they were signed, comment was made they were good at communication. Is this the solution?

 

If the defense doesn't improve this year we are in trouble. Bostic & Burnett must stay healthy & tackle.

 

I had much the same questions.

 

I honestly don't know who they could have brought in, but I'm not an NFL head coach or general manager. I don't have access to that community. But I can see the communication breakdowns that have been a constant issue since Butler took over the defense. I can see that the Steelers no longer seem to be able to make in-game adjustments on defense, something that had been a strength when LeBeau was there.

 

The lamest of all defenses: "Who else can we hire? There is no one."

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Surely there are some young hot shots who would make great DCs. Who heard of Sean McVey before he took HC job for the Rams? Doug Peersen did OK as HC for Philly. There are guys out there. What is so great about Butler? Show me where he has inspired or schemed on an above average level. The players have never responded to him, unlike LeBeau who was virtually worshiped by the players. (I am not advocating an 85-year-old as DC and I felt they took at least 1 year too long in moving him; my point is DL was special at one point and Butler never was.)

 

Outside of Gus Bradley a couple of years ago, whom I was very high on, do you have any candidates?

 

I know this is gonna go over like a fart in church but I would take a chance on SexyRexy. At least our D would have some personality. Say what you want about him as a HC but as a DC he was effective.....especially against NE. With a team that's built to win now and a O that is already top of their game,he could inject some swagger and attitude to a D that is missing just that....

 

Yea, that's a fair barometer: Ask some guy who isn't in the profession to name hot DC candidates. I am sure if I was in that space I could rattle off several.

 

I wouldn't be against it out of hand. I think he ran a 4-3 though. He loved massive D linemen who could control the LOS. I think Tomlin would feel threatened by his big personality though.

 

This has been a consistent theme to Tomlin's teams for the last 8 years. We are sloppy on both sides of the ball. We are sloppy in our play calling and preparation. This is exactly why we lose to some of the worst teams in the league with regularity. I don't see us winning a SB until we become a disciplined team. Harrison was stating the obvious...and he's not the only person who's said it. I don't think his comments were sour grapes...he doesn't care..he's an honest guy. He says what he thinks. I don't hear players coming to Tomlin's defense either. I've heard players voice this same stuff. I believe Ben has said it more than once. The FO needs to make a change if we don't make it to the SB.

 

Well said. Serious question. Has any former player ever come out and publicly pointed out Tomlin as a master game strategist? Has any player ever come out and credited Tomlins game planning as a reason the Steelers won? I know players give him props all the time for his motivation and personality. But I have never heard anyone give him credit as a game manager.

 

And you never will.

 

You should switch teams, all you do is whine and complain about the Steelers .

 

After last season ended I said Arizona former DC Bechter would be a good hire, I think he went to the Giants.

 

I guess the ultimate question is, who is responsible for calling the second play and why do they still have the job?

Defensive plays come from the Defensive Coordinator and adjustments are made by the defense captain or designated signal calling linebacker. There is a line of command in the whole thing.


Tomlin et al was praising both Terrell Edmunds and Marcus Allen for their communication skills, which might be telling where exactly the problem was.

 

You also don't know more than the Rooney's and Colbert .

 

Well you sure act like an expert on everything.

 

Just an expert on how bad we will be.​

 

Ain’t that the truth.

 

I’ve dug around and found several articles covering bits on this and player quotes about the confusion.

Shazier was the signal caller and none of this confusion occurred until he went out. Williams and Spence talked about it so it wasn’t coming from them. Not Watt, he’s a rookie. Not Bud either.

As you asked, why do they still have a job? I don’t think they do. More and more, it’s looking like Mitchell was the source.

Tomlin also praised the communication skills of Bostic and Bennett. Clearly he knows there was a problem. Now, will it be fixed?

I’m not seeing this being a problem this season.

 

IT'S A JOKE!!!!!!!!

 

The only problem with that concept according to James Harrison anyways as he in context suggests it is the coaches and not the players causing the confusion.

I wonder if it is a Mike Tomlin overriding Keith Butler or vise versa.

 

Never said that. I'm just pointing out things to work on.

 

i will believe it when I see it. Right now they are moving linebackers from right to left. They are trying to make a safety play linebacker, and a cornerback potentially play safety. You say Bostic has been praised for communication yet they list Dirty Red as a starter. None of this sounds like they are fixing communication to me. Hell Im confused even thinking about the defense. We dont even know if we are a 4-3 team or a 3-4 team anymore. Who cares!? Its all sub packages now anyways!