Steelers Are Using Transition Tag On Worilds

which is the difference ($) between the franchise tag and the transition one ?
and where did they find the money to tag him , only with miller extension ?
i think they are hoping somebody will break the bank so we could get a high compensation pick in 2015

 

How does that tag work? Are the Steelers on the hook for that 9+ million or can they just walk away?

 

i think if he sign the tag we will have to pay him ...scary
since he is not signing it we can walk away

 

Do I remember correctly that this does not mean his cap hit will be 9 mill., only that they need to be able to fit that at a minimum.

 

is he really one of the top 10 lb'ers in the league? or worth that type of money? i'd have to let him walk for that. even if we cut woodley and have the dead money we are still paying 14 mil. for an OLB that had 6 good games last year.

seems to me they just keep bringing on these cap troubles themselves.

 

i hope they are sure he will not sign the tag and have an agreement between them , otherwise it's a mad move

 

why not offer him a contract around 6/7milion if they like him so much . with this tag they are renting him for one year at 10 milion , doesn't make sense

 

This just buys them time to work out a long term deal. A one year deal is dangerous for a player as well. I also think this is the end of Woodle. Right now we are on the hook for 23 million between him and Woodley.

 

and if i'm worilds i sign the tag and wait next year

 

the steelers can pull that tag in so many days can't they?

 

I read that w/the Transition Tag that if another team signs him and the Steelers do not match then because the T Tag was applied they will get not get a compensation pick. I guess one thing I think is why not just go the whole way and give him the Franchise Tag - I know it is another $2M but at least it guarantees you keep him...maybe the cap math doesn't work.

I think what will happen is some team that is in a very friendly cap position will simply structure their deal in a way that automatically shuts the Steelers out. So they will structure it at 5 years 42 or 43 million but guarantee $13M or $14M in year one which the Steelers will have no way of matching.

 

since he doesn't sign it they can pull away anytime

maybe they want push woodley to take a pay cut and if happens they will pull the worilds tag , if they wanted worilds i would have sticked with a fair offer and say good luck if you find something better

 

Same thing they did with Starks for two years, except they used the franchise tag on Max.

Like another poster said in a different thread, if Worilds was that good he could play on both sides and be equally effective. I don't like paying $9 million for a guy who can only rush the passer from the left/right. Hopefully a long-term deal gets worked out at a much more reasonable price.

 

Ridiculous.

 

I don't know, teams, GMs, owners get desperate. Also with the cap number going up some teams feel they got more money to burn especially if you do not have a franchise QB that puts you either in cap hell or cap purgatory year to year. So I could see some team throwing him the money. The Fins did it w/Wallace last year.

I don't think the Transition Tag seems like a good idea. I could see doing it if your guy was one of the better guys among a solid FA class at your position. But the word seems to be that Orakpo and Worilds are really the only good guys at that pass rushing position which means somebody is likely going to throw some dollars his way.

 

The transition tag here is a really good move. We can pretty much ensure that we are going to be keeping Worilds for this season, while at the same time we can work out a long term deal with him. This allows us to bag Woodley, which frees up boatloads of cap space the next 2 years (while the cap increases yet again in 2015). With all this extra cap room we will have in 2015 (Woodley gone, Troy no longer on our books, etc.) we can afford to pay him a big front loaded contract at the price that Worilds will want to sign. We will also be able to afford Heyward, C. Allen, and even Pouncey. Getting Worilds signed and Woodley out will be a huge step in a positive cap direction for us. I will assume that as soon as free agency is done, Woodley will be getting the snips

 

Why does this pretty much assure we will keep him? Without the Franchise Tag, somebody can still sign him. What's not to stop a team from giving him a long term contract and frontloading something at least in the first year which knocks the Steelers out of the competition. And with Orakpo off the market it means it only takes one team who is really desperate for that pass rusher.

 

someone help but didn't we do this a few years back with a player? I cant remember who but we ended up working out a deal. was it Hampton?

 

we franchised starks two times , the first one we eat the tag then in the second year we hammered a contract .