Stats just mock the Steelers lol

Steelers would be 5-1 w Ben at qb which makes it so frustrating. Another wasted year. We can’t or won’t throw the ball down the field which is the difference in the SF, Sea, and Balt Losses.

 

They could be plus 4, 16th in the league and 5-1..that is crazy.

 

<sigh> coulda, woulda, shoulda. Didn't. 2-4

 

They have to be top 5 in injuries. Seem to be dropping like flies going into fall. Truly reflective of our record.

 

Obviously you don't understand. When WR's have to go from Ben to Mason to Devlin it's clear that an offenses skill position players are going to struggle with production.

The offense struggled on 3rd and as a result struggled to maintain more time of possession. The inconsistent QB play had an overall impact on the team.

It also doesn't help that the team has a fairly young group of WR's starting. It's ok believe what you want. Most people do anyway.

 

Brown had a very small sample size without Roethlisberger relative to his entire career, so it's a bit much to attribute his success to Roethlisberger like that. They helped each other a great deal.

Brown also helped Smith-Schuster a great deal, but I know some folks will do anything to avoid saying as much.

 

The statistics back me up, so yes, I'm going to stick with my opinion.

Please stop saying I don't understand just because I don't agree with your opinion. It's rude and inaccurate.

Sure, Smith-Schuster got open down the field once against the Chargers and Hodges made a terrible throw, but quarterback play isn't the only issue. The receivers just aren't getting open often enough and Smith-Schuster is a part of that. The loss of Roethlisberger hurts, but so does the loss of Brown.

 

The defense completely fell apart in the second half against the Seahawks. I don't think they win that game no matter who was playing quarterback. The offensive line was horrible against the 49ers, so that would have been no sure thing, either.

I suspect they would be 3-3, 4-2 at best, but that's not the new reality. He's not part of the 2019 team any more.

 

What stats back you up?

Most times a backup QB/3rd string QB plays there's a drop off in overall offensive production for everyone. When any QB struggles there's going to be a drop off in offensive production.

This ish isn't that difficult to understand.

 

Yeah, would hate to see someone be rude or inaccurate!

 

Asinine to think otherwise.

 

I guess you weren't paying attention to entire week 1 game vs. Patriots and 1st half vs. Seattle in week 2.

I'm glad we've had Ben since 2004 and grateful for the 2 Super Bowl wins, but his performance was terrible in the 6 quarters he played in 2019. Steelers would be 2-4 regardless of who is at QB. Truth.

 

Obviously who or how good the QB is a factor in a WRs production but so is the WRs inability to consistently get open. I do recall someone (not you) telling me otherwise in another conversation a while back. Wonder if they still feel that way?

 

With that Ben for sure. I don’t know how you can confidently say otherwise. We’ve seen him bounce back before but judging by the way the OL was playing and the D, there’s no guarantees we wouldn’t be right where we are.

 

I've seen "September" Ben enough over the years to confidently proclaim the Steelers would be 2-4 with or without Ben.

Only September game I remember in recent memory where he was sharp was back in 2016 vs. Redskins on opening day @ Washington. 2 weeks later... offense puts up 3 points and gets destroyed by the Eagles. .... with Bell and Brown.

 

That does suck but we always have next year. We are rebuilding for sure and the defense is seriously wicked now. Our record is dismal and although those stats are awesome and look really good on paper I dont like what we have in the way of offense so now that needs to be fixed. Would be great to have one year where we had all things in place with respect to both defense and offense. We get the offense and then dont have the defense and vice versa. We are in desperate need of a quality reliable and healthy TE similar to Heath and another receiver to match Juju. I dont care for Switzer or Washington. Connor and Samuels I like and even Benny Snell but the rest can go.

 

I think Ben against the 49ers he would've gotten more points off of those 5 turnovers than Rudolph did.

 

Wrs need an adjustment period when they are usually in single coverage to being in double, triple coverage. Routes have to get sharper & timing has to be accurate. People underestimate the 'feel' between a qb & a wr.

 

Chris Hoke on the Fan today said that when he watches the 22 the receivers are getting open. He then said that open, however, is relative and that they were open enough for Ben to hit them with a pass, but not necessarily open enough for Rudolph or Hodges.

TIFWIW

 

How hard is it to write out the word issue? I don't need somebody who writes in text speak falsely claiming I don't understand his points, thank you very much. Your argument is easy to understand. I just don't think it is entirely true. Yes, the quarterback play is part of the problem, but so is the loss of Brown.

 

I didn't say he isn't a No. 1. I said he isn't an elite No. 1. An elite No. 1 wouldn't fall off that much. This isn't a stray game here or there. This is six games strung together in a season.

The excuse-making for Smith-Schuster began before the season started. People were already excusing the drop in his numbers before the loss of Roethlisberger, but doing so without acknowledging that the loss of Brown would be the cause.

Now everybody has an excuse so they don't have to admit that the absence of Brown is a significant factor in the Steelers' offensive problems this season.

 

with the same leadership? We've had championship caliber talent for quite some time until this year. What will be different?

 

I was going to make a similar comment regarding open receivers, 'open' being relative to the ability and confidence of the QB (and the receiver).