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Soft league - kazee hit

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Mashburn, Nov 13, 2022.

  1. No

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  2. Yes

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  3. Yes, but it's a stupid penalty that pushes flag football

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  1. Karl

    Karl Well-Known Member

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    I'm in the minority here. It is a penalty.
    You need to lower the target a smidgeon.
    They are going to toss the laundry every time on those high hits.

    Now I do feel the rule is a little nutty.
    He did not 'spear' the receiver.
    I agree it was more shoulder to shoulder but with the rule as it is... you can't go high.
     
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  2. jrompola

    jrompola Well-Known Member

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    I'm of the same opinion and if the hit was on a steelers WR i'd want a flag all day. You have to target lower on hits like that or 95% of the time its a flag.
     
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  3. santeesteel

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    At least Kazee didn't get kicked out like that 49ers LB. That was a bs ejection and I wonder if he would have even been flagged if it had been Ekeler instead of Herbert.
    I saw Kazee's hit as shoulder to shoulder too. Don't agree with the flag.
     
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  4. jrompola

    jrompola Well-Known Member

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    No flag if ekeler. Def a BS ejection.
     
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  5. steelersrock151

    steelersrock151 Well-Known Member

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  6. NDsteelerfan

    NDsteelerfan Well-Known Member

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    i have said it before, but, if he does a nice clean hit and wrap, like i was taught at a young level, it isnt a penalty , and the reciever most likely looses the ball as well...i know im in the minority( people want to see a guy get in a nice hard lick
    ), but going back to wrapping a guy up when you hit him, would probably eleminate alot of these calls
     
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  7. BigBensBigBong

    BigBensBigBong Well-Known Member

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    He could have delivered a hard hit at the waist area. Better than getting a major penalty and maybe the ball comes out.
     
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  8. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Beer is good

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    It was a penalty and it was dumb on Kazee

    Karl explained it perfectly above
     
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  9. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Beer is good

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    The hit on Pickens on the sideline when he h tried to hurdle should have been a penalty

    Pickens was out of bounds and the defender had both feet deep into the white paint
     
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  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I don't agree for one simple reason....they don't call it the same all game long. If it's a penalty then call it a penalty all throughout the game....not just pick , and choose. I can go back in that exact same game , and show at least two more shots that were a more flagrant shot of Helmet on Helmet....yet no flag. If it's a penalty...then make it always a penalty. If it's not don't call any of them.
     
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  11. Karl

    Karl Well-Known Member

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    Well.
    You do have a point, but it also applies to every call.
    How do you uniform them up?

    *My suggestion has always been peer analysis; you get graded for each game, every call/non-call.
     
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  12. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Kazee and TJ provided a great spark today, I hope they can continue to inspire
    Other players with their enthusiasm.
     
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  13. Formerscribe

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    It has to be both an unnecessary hit and a hit to a defenseless receiver. I don't think it fulfills the first part of that.

    It was not to the neck or head. It was a necessary hit because it as the only way to affect the play. The only legitimate argument I see is that maybe he launched himself at the receiver.
     
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  14. Formerscribe

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    Do either of you? It takes more than just a defenseless player. There are other components to the rule.
     
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  15. Jammasterc

    Jammasterc Well-Known Member

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    WRs need to stand up a little taller so their flag can be grabbed a little easier.
     
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  16. Karl

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    It would be tough to say "it is a good rule" or call for that matter.
    As mentioned, he didn't 'spear' the receiver.
    But the bottom line is, he did hit high and in today's NFL that will cause laundry to be on the field.

    I was looking at the 49er ejection also.
    I kind of view that as happenstance as well. 15 yards, ok. Ejection? That's a bit out of scope.
    They really need to look at those calls more in depth.
     
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  17. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Kazee will stand by your side. He stayed with quinn from falcons to cowboys. He knows he has crap and about to hit age. He won't be asking for a lot.
     
  18. Formerscribe

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    That ejection was utterly ridiculous.
     
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  19. CK 13

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    Its a bang bang play in most cases. Goodell's shield wants you to think they give a $hit. Its the perception. Makes them look warm and fuzzy.

    The helmet to helmet hit to Najee should have been an ejection. He looked like an owl with that hit. And it wasn't even called! How the hell does the zebras miss that? Hmmm...

    The NFL cares :roflmao:
     
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  20. Ironman

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    I agree, he was clearly trying to knock the ball out there. Bad call.
     
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  21. Wolfepack88

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    I thought that as well but at that point, what was lost, he made the catch so the penalty ended up meaning not much considering the spot on the field. (half the distance to the goal didn't mean much). I thought it was clean as well but I agree todays NFL they throw that flag ever single time because of the way it looks. Apparently he's supposed to race full speed to get over there and then just try to swat the ball away or go low in a split second. Can you imagine Swann being able to go across the middle without Jack Tatum trying to take his head off.
     
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  22. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    Did you by chance watch the Niners\Chargers game? Niners had one of their top guy kicked out due to a hit on the QB when he was considered a runner.
     
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  23. Wolfepack88

    Wolfepack88 Well-Known Member

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    I think this hit might be ok though? I thought Bud killed him.

     
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  24. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    But of course they did.
     
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  25. OB1

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    This is how it should be done:

     
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