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So, you think Mike Tomlin should be fired?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by 08SteelCurtain, Dec 14, 2020.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    What about 1992-2004, those were Cowher's people then too :facepalm:.
     
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  2. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Superb defense but no qb lol
     
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  3. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Baltimore won with Dilfer, Tampa won with Brad Johnson
     
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  4. Jim90

    Jim90 Well-Known Member

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    Like I said I'm done with this, I'm not going to waste my time on stupid questions. The Tomlin lovers season ends with the Browns , mission accomplished, another none losing season, because that's the main mission. ( its all you're going to get from this cheerleader)
     
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  5. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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  6. hmmmmm

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    Everyone likes to say Ben didn't do squat in the super bowl victories because he didn't have a good QB rating in the super bowl. You over looked his stats and how he played exceptional in the playoffs to get them there. He threw 7 TD's and 1 int in the playoffs to get them in the super bowl. The Steelers had a solid TEAM in 2005 and 2008. If Mendenhall doesn't fumble in the super bowl Ben might have 3 rings. Also the great Mike Tomlin started Mike Wallace, Hines Ward (old and fat at the time) and played Antwaan Randle el (lost a step not as good the second time around). Tomlin chose those 3 over Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders. Steelers win the super bowl against the Packers had Tomlin worked them into the offense during the season. Tomlin also dumped the Super Bowl MVP Santonio Holmes just before the season (he was in trouble for smoking pot). However Tomlin is well known for putting up with talented players for way to long (Bell and Brown). Yet this guy was traded very early on. I believe Tomlin is an average coach. It truly seems there aren't many quality coaches in the NFL.
     
  7. hmmmmm

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    Don't forget those 3 playoff wins were against Miami (with a backup QB), Bengals (with a backup QB) and Chiefs (Alex Smith). Makes it sound much worse when you look closer. They wouldn't have played the Chiefs if they didn't get 50 yards in penalties on the last drive against the Bengals (with a backup QB).
     
  8. hmmmmm

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    I don't like when he fires up the wrong team. "we are going to unleash hell". Looking past the Jaguars and talking about the Patriots. He seems to say stuff every year that costs the Steelers a game.
     
  9. hmmmmm

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    Great coaches in my opinion shouldn't get embarrassed like Tomlin. The Patriots struggled against certain teams during the Brady era (Broncos, Giants, Ravens, Miami and Browns). Those teams played them tuff. Tomlin did nothing to try to mimic the defensive schemes those teams used. Never changed the scheme that Brady carved up over and over and over. Brady had his best QB rating against the Steelers (went a decade without throwing a pick). Soft zone year after year after year. Hell Tomlin played man to man against Brady got his first win against him then the next time they met soft zone over and over and over. A great coach wouldn't have looked like a complete failure that many times using the same defense.
     
  10. hmmmmm

    hmmmmm Well-Known Member

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    The Washington Football Team fans were very happy to get rid of Danny Smith. Why does he still have a job.
     
  11. Disco1981

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    Levy went to 4 Super Bowls in a row! Tomlin has won 3 playoff games in TEN years!
     
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  12. hmmmmm

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    Tomlin could set aside some time and make them use the Jugs machine. What is the point of practicing plays if no one can catch. Do we own a jugs machine? Hell lets buy 4.
     
  13. hmmmmm

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    I love when people say Tomlin is a great coach and when someone says they aren't the person that loves Tomlin says the following. He isn't responsible for the roster, Play calling performance on the field, Time management, challenges. What exactly is he responsible for? When you are done making that list. Tell me what he does well. It's not unleashing hell.
     
  14. hmmmmm

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    Ben was best when he could break tackles. That was a long time ago. It also would have been nice if he never got in the motorcycle accident.
     
  15. hmmmmm

    hmmmmm Well-Known Member

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    Look at how many times the opposing teams bring in a backup QB and the QB plays well and beats us or almost wins. Dallas this year. The Ravens had a QB I think it was Mallett was on the roster about 4 days and beat us. It happens all the time. Yet our backup has a hard time getting a first down. That has been going on for a decade. That is a great example of poor coaching.
     
  16. hmmmmm

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    Wow the responses to this statement are not going to be good.
     
  17. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I don't often drink...but I'm starting to. Site Admin

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    We pin team identity and personnel choices on the head coach, right?
     
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  18. hmmmmm

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    Sooo you are willing to go to Vegas and bet Tomlin wins a second super bowl. I would be willing to go to Vegas and place the opposite bet.
     
  19. hmmmmm

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    Horrible argument yes they were 8-8. Lets dig deeper they won the Super Bowl in 2005, 2006 they were 8-8 because Ben almost died in a motorcylce accident (concussion). He also had another during the season maybe more. Ben didn't feel comfortable getting hit that season.
     
  20. hmmmmm

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    If Cowher had Ben for 13 years he would have more rings. Ben would have 4 rings. Maybe that means Brady only gets 4?
     
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  21. hmmmmm

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    Don't forget Bell was injured in the AFC championship game because due to Tomlin's coaching he would run the wheels off of Bell (hurting his own players). instead of giving his RB a break once in a while. When we beat the Dolphins (with a backup QB) in the playoffs we had a drive that he gave Bell the ball 10 times on one drive (look it up). We also had Bell and Blount for a little while. Tomlin still wouldn't give the backup RB any touches. What happened Blount won a super bowl after Tomlin cut him. All Blount wanted was to get 5-8 touches a game. The great Tomlin refused. Tomlin made our greatest opponent better (he could have traded him to a NFC team instead of cutting him). Thanks Tomlin
     
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  22. Roonatic

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    You should look at P. Mannings playoff record with a stacked offense. Denver did him a solid.
     
  23. Jujubean

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    Wins what? A regular season game in October? Because I certainly know you can’t be talking about the playoffs....
     
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  24. Roonatic

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    I miss the post season too.
     
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  25. Kirkland

    Kirkland Well-Known Member

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    A stacked offense that wasn’t built for January football. Manning is extremely overrated. He’s probably the best regular season player ever but when it comes to the playoffs not so much. If everything wasn’t perfect he’d get happy feet. Case in point the Steelers epic win against the Colts in the 05 Divisional Round. I remember he threw his offensive line under the bus too after that game.

    Hell it was a joke when he won Super Bowl MVP in 06 over Dominic Rhodes. Guy threw for 1 Touchdown, 1 Int and lost a Fumble.
     
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