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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steel Acorn, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. Steel Acorn

    Steel Acorn Well-Known Member

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    To have a break from all the drama, I have a question about how plays get sent in from the sideline.

    Let's say the previous play was a five wide formation and gets a first down. The OC decides a run with 2 tight ends should be the next play. He can radio that play to the QB, but how do all the players know what the play will be? Some of the players from the previous play need to find out they need to leave the field, and some of the players on the sideline need to get on the field, and then, maybe the head coach contradicts the OC and wants a different play called. All this has to happen pretty quickly, as the play clock is running down, and the QB's radio will be cut off. How does all that communication happen and get organized? Same thing for the defense, switching from zone to man to cover 2.

    I assume that is also what they practice during the week. Seems really complicated.
     
  2. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    In those instances, when the QB receives the call, he himself has to make the adjustments. Normally this is done with some codewords; repeated often to everyone with the formation already set. Once those pre snap adjustments are made, it is the QBs job to scan the field for any major changes to the defense. Should he see anything suspicious beyond that though, he only has two options;




    1.) Throw it to the hot read of that WR during the play should it be a blitz with no Running Back help.

    Or


    2.) Check it down to the RB should he be available with the blitz.



    Now, bear in mind that neither of these two key points of emphasis mean much without execution. It is not that neither of these two points are inefficient. The fact of the matter is that the players themselves must carry out the playcall; to the basics and fudementals of the game no less.



    Why do I keep mentioning blitz you may ask?! Seems to me Mason is getting blitzed into oblivion on Third Down quite often. Pressuring any young QB on Third Down is an established tactic. Tried by all but still true to the objective.
     
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  3. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Mason will continue to get blitzed until he can pick it up. Ben and Brady laugh at blitzes
     
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  4. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Just to add to AQLs response:

    The personnel are is indicated to the team from the sidelines as soon as the last play ends; the play is given to the QB via the radio.

    If there’s a back up or young player in, sometimes the QB needs to check they know the routes and teach them on the spot.

    I’ll take the chance to recommend Pat Kirwan’s Take Your Eye Off The Ball. I picked it up after @shaner82 recommended it on here a few years back, and it’s a really interesting insight into how much goes on in those 30 odd seconds between plays.
     
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  5. santeesteel

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    In New England, they just leave the radio on...….
     
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  6. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Both team's radios.
     
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  7. Jball

    Jball Well-Known Member

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    Don't they use hand signals, or cue cards with symbols or colors on them to indicate the package? And everyone knows which packages that they're a part of.
     
  8. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Most everyone, I think Buggs had to be reminded.
     
  9. AskQuestionsLater

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    In college, those cue cards are quite prevalent as the game is much slower. By the time those players enter the league, no chance. Too many other Pre Snap reads both the Offensive Center and QB have to make. Any other adjustments that need to be made are done by the QB and further relayed from the Offensive Center to the entire line for line checks.
     
  10. Jball

    Jball Well-Known Member

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    I was speaking more to a personnel standpoint. Is the QB then, or sideline screaming out the personnel package?
     
  11. AskQuestionsLater

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    Oh.. package plays you mean?! Those would be done over the radio via the OC to the QB. Personnel packages are difficult to yell out due to the fast paced nature of the game.


    Moreover, you want to keep your opponent guessing. Even giving him subtle clues is more than enough to disrupt and negate the play overall. Players like Bobby Wagner can do far worse even with limited info.
     
  12. Steel Acorn

    Steel Acorn Well-Known Member

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    I guess it is more getting the packages on the field, and the previous package off the field, that I find so fascinating. That has to take lots of communication, and it happens in a small time window. Same on defense. I wonder if that is part of the reason the defense often seems confused.
     
  13. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    Such a great book. I learned a lot from it. I recommend it to true fans of football. Even fairweather fans may enjoy it, but true fans of the game will enjoy it for sure.
     
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  14. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    Please contact the New England Patriots to find out how we do it.
     
  15. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    I believe players are part of packages that are determined by the plays that are run similar to punts. I think we script out the first 10 or so plays each game and players know which plays they will be in on. In other situations when players come on the field from the sidelines players already on the field most likely know who they rotate with and come out. If all else fails, the players who are on the field will look to their designated coach to see if they are getting waved to come off or to keep on the field. Sometimes we don't do this very well however they do it.
     
  16. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I don't often drink...but I'm starting to. Site Admin

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    I’d guess some personnel packages are more/less common than others, so (generally speaking) some players know they’re staying on the field and others expect to come right off.
     

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