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Shannon Sharpe Says Ben MVP of SB XLlll

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. BobbyBiz

    BobbyBiz Well-Known Member

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    Chuck Howley LB Dallas Cowboys, Super Bowl V.
     
  2. HugeSnack

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    I think in Super Bowl 5, some DL on Dallas won it, but that game is famous for being one of the most offensively blunderous games of all time, so I think they had no choice. I wish they were more open to it though. I take the words "Most Valuable Player" literally, and in Super Bowls, just like regular games, the most valuable player is often on the losing team. Almost every game Barry Sanders ever played, for example.
     
  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    So only one since SB V, I think that proves my point. I understand what you are saying but have to disagree. I believe the MVP should go to the the player that helped his team the most to victory. Sucks for the loser if he played better but he didn't do enough for his team to win.
     
  4. Rush2seven

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    I always thought that Peyton didn't deserve MVP honors, rather it should have gone to both of the running backs. Yet, because of the name on the back of his jersey, he got it. I felt Ben was cheated out of it. Harrison and Holmes had monster games. All three deserving. Just thought Ben deserved it more. Brady would have taken the time to lead his team down the field for 3 points. Ben got 7.
     
  5. harristotle

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    Couldn't have said it better. I thought Ben or Harrison should have gotten it as soon as the game ended, not a year later. But your points as to why they didn't are probably spot on.
     
  6. AFan

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    Given the way Shannon Sharpe speakes, (as though he has a box of marbles in his mouth), how could you tell he didn't say "Yancey Thgipen was the MVP of SB XLIII"
     
  7. HugeSnack

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    Well, it's very unlikely they'll split it between two guys, and don't forget Peyton is also the OC and they put up a lot of points.
     
  8. harristotle

    harristotle Well-Known Member

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    No Arians is the OC ;)
     
  9. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Actually a losing player has got the MVP. In the "Blunder Bowl" that happened. Chuck Howley got it. He had 2 int's and got it. That's how much the league loves the cowgirls that they will give their losing player the MVP. Actually the Colts kicker should have got it.
     
  10. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    BTW I will forever have love for Yancey. Don't be hating on Yancey.
     
  11. Aerosteel

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    Ben will never get any respect. Never did and never will. Now, in fairness, he has earned a great deal of that disrespect, but there is no doubt that if you put Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli or any other "elite" QB into that game and they did the same exact thing, they would have got the MVP award. Anyone want to dispute that? I was listening to the commentary before the Probowl - did anyone else notice that they talked about the great attributes of every QB except Ben? Then I have to endure reading on this board how Eli has progressed further than Ben. Really? You mean the same Eli who last year had a league-leading 25 INT's? If people would actually try to remember, Ben was having an excellent season this year (enough to make the Probowl,) before he was injured twice (thumb and ankle,) which basically ruined the last 6 games for him.
     
  12. mort159

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    Lets compare for the sake of debate...

    Ben-21/30 for 256 1 TD and 1 INT (34th most yards in a super bowl and 38th best rating in super bowl history)
    -Led the game winning drive
    -Had 5 completions for 84 yards on the final drive

    Holmes-9 for 131 and 1 TD (12th most yards in super bowl history and 10th most catches in super bowl history)
    -caught game winning TD (was the biggest catch in super bowl history)
    -had 4 receptions for 73 yards on final drive

    Harrison- 3 tackles 1 sack 1 INT for a TD
    -had one of the greatest plays in super bowl history
    -drew 2 holding calls

    Feel free to add to this for each player. I'm interested to see what we come up with.

    T_E- I agree, i wish the MVP was just for the winning team, but it is possible for a losing player to win it, not likely though.

    Huge Snack- Had Ben got the rushing TD, it may have been a different story. These types of awards are stat driven, regardless if we think its right or not the people who vote on them weigh heavily on stats.

    Even taking stats out of it i felt Holmes was consistently the most dominant player on the field that day. He was open all day and he was uncoverable on the last drive. Harrison's play was definately the best play of the game. Until the final catch i thought Harrison had it though.
     
  13. BobbyBiz

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    If its stats driven then why was Ben denied the MVP when he posted identical numbers to the previous years MVP Eli Manning? And save me the all time ranking in terms of yards, catches, passes, and ratings. I highly doubt those doing the voting had access to such information at that moment.

    As for Holmes dominant performance, 40 of those yards came as a direct result of the Cardinal DB falling down because he bit on Bens pump fake.
     
  14. mort159

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    He didn't have the same stats as Manning. Manning had 1 more TD, which means a lot and the Giants did not have another player with better stats. I believe Tyree had that great catch but only had 3 catches for 42 yards and a TD, big difference from Holmes stats.
     
  15. AFan

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    Can I ask a simple question, what is the point to this discussion?

    Shanon Sharpe (marble-mouthed moron) says Ben should have been MVP of a SB 3 years ago!!! As if this is some kind of controversy?

    As for Ben's dominant performance, 40 of those yards are a direct result of a Cardinals DB falling down because of Holmes astute moves.

    Ugly is in the eye of the beholder.
     
  16. mort159

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    It's very possible that had it been Manning or Brady, they would have gotten it. I don't think Eli though. I think people would have been complaining about that decision also. People are just hot on Eli because he is in the super bowl this year and he had a good year. The general public always sways like that. Ben is unorthodoxed and does things different than most good qb's in the league, plus he has his baggage, so he is never going to get the recognition that he deserves from the media.
     
  17. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I'm just spitballing here but I think it's to discuss who we think the mvp should have been :shrug:
     
  18. BobbyBiz

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    Ben had more completions in less attempts (higher comp%), higher YPA, same yards, and a higher QB rating. Eli had more TDs. If not for Ben faking Fransico out of his jock, Holmes stats are comparable to Amani Toomers.
     
  19. ScottChab

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    It is gonna be one loooooooooonnnnnnnnnnggggggg offseason!

    :-(
     
  20. mort159

    mort159 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you! I probably shouldn't have even commented on this topic because i knew what it would draw. Reality is Holmes got it and that can't be taken away.
     
  21. mort159

    mort159 Well-Known Member

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    If your aunt had balls she would be your uncle.
     
  22. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Nope, can't take it away. Just nice to hear talking heads acknowledging Ben should have gotten it, even Francesca who was doing the interview and loathes Ben more then you agrees Ben should have gotten it.
     
  23. mort159

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    No matter how many people think he should have gotten it won't change the fact that he didn't and it will never go any further than people debating it on a message board or some loudmouth like Shannon Sharpe bringing it up every 5 years.
     
  24. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Just a hollow trophy, like being a paper champion. Everyone knows it belongs to Ben, even Holmes knows it.
     
  25. ScottChab

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    No way Holmes thinks it belongs to Ben. Not with his ego.
     

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