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Sgt. Friday-Approved L.Bell 2019 Scenarios Thread

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Clive From PIT, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:51 AM.

  1. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT

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    Background:

    Bell has been designated as a franchise player twice, 2017 and 2018.
    • The 2017 tender amount was $12,120,000. He accepted it and was on the team for the entire regular season.
    • The 2018 tender amount was $14,544,000 (120% of $12,120,000, his 2017 (Last Year’s) Salary). He has not yet accepted it and joined the team.
    The CBA discusses designation, not acceptances of the tenders. The most reasonable interpretation of the CBA: tagging Bell as a Franchise player in 2019 would be his third such designation.

    Absent a tag of some flavor, Bell would become a free agent and could sign with any team. Pittsburgh likely would get a third-round draft pick in compensation.


    Scenario 1: Bell doesn’t sign by 11/13:
    • Bell earns no pay for 2018. [Art. 10, Section 15(a)]
    • His "Last Year’s Salary" is $12,120,000 from 2017. [Art. 10, Section 15(c), 2(b)]
    • For a third franchise tag, the tender is determined by Section 2(b).
    Exclusive Franchise Tag – not available for a player’s third franchise designation. [Art. 10, Section 15(c)]
    Non- Exclusive Franchise Tag – $21,678,000 (est.) [Art. 10, Section 2(b)] If Bell left, Pittsburgh would receive one first- and one third-round draft pick from the signing team.
    • (A) $21,678,000 (est.) = the average of the five largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position with the highest such average [QB];
    • (B) $14,047,200 (est.) = 120% of the average of the five largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position at which [Bell] participated in the most plays during the prior League Year [RB; est. $11,706,000]; or
    • (C) $17,452,800 = 144% of his Prior Year Salary (1.44 x $12,120,000).
    Transition Tag – $9,258,000 (est.) [Art. 10, Section 4(a)] No compensatory draft picks.
    • (A) $9,258,000 (est.) = the Cap Percentage Average of the ten largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position at which the Transition Player participated in the most plays during the prior League Year [RB]…; or
    • (B) $14,544,000 = 120% of his Prior Year Salary (1.20 x $12,120,000), whichever is greater.

    Scenario 2: Bell signs 11/10-13:

    • Bell is on the team for 7 weeks, and his pay is prorated to $5,988,706 (7/17 x $14,544,000) [Art. 10, Section 2(e)].
    • Bell’s “Last Year’s Salary” for 2019 tag tender purposes is $5,989,706. [Art. 10, Section 2(e)]
    • For a third franchise tag, the tender is determined by Section 2(b).
    Exclusive Franchise Tag – $21,678,000 (est.) [Art. 10, Section 2(b)]
    • (A) $21,678,000 (est.) = the average of the five largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position with the highest such average [QB];
    • (B) $14,047,200 (est.) = 120% of the average of the five largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position at which [Bell] participated in the most plays during the prior League Year [RB; est. $11,706,000]; or
    • (C) $8,623,736 = 144% of his Prior Year Salary (1.44 x $5,988,706).
    Non- Exclusive Franchise Tag – $21,678,000 (est.) [Art. 10, Section 2(b)], and the compensatory draft picks are a first and a third [Art. 10, Section 15(c)]. If Bell left, Pittsburgh would receive one first- and one third-round draft pick from the signing team.
    • (A) $21,678,000 (est.) = the average of the five largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position with the highest such average [QB];
    • (B) $14,047,200 (est.) = 120% of the average of the five largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position at which [Bell] participated in the most plays during the prior League Year [RB; est. $11,706,000]; or
    • (C) $8,623,736 = 144% of his Prior Year Salary (1.44 x $5,988,706).
    Transition Tag – $9,258,000 (est.) [Art. 10, Section 4(a)] No compensatory draft picks.
    • (A) $9,258,000 (est.) = the Cap Percentage Average of the ten largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position at which the Transition Player participated in the most plays during the prior League Year [RB; est. 9,258,000] …; or
    • (B) 7,186,447 = 120% of his Prior Year Salary (1.20 x $5,988,706), whichever is greater.

    References, Data, and Assumptions.
    NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement, 04AUG2011 [LINK]

    Salary Cap Values.

    Salary cap for 2018 = $176mm.
    Estimated 2019 Salary Cap = $180mm.

    2019 Tag Tender Value Estimates
    "Franchise, Transition, and RFA Tenders" (OverTheCap.com [LINK])
    Franchise Tag:
    • Quarterback – $21,678,000
    • Running back – $11,706,000
    Transition tag:
    • Quarterback – $19,007,000
    • Running back – $9,258,000
     
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2018 at 9:31 PM
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  2. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    :facepalm:
     
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  3. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

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    Here is a question. I keep hearing the Steelers may use the transition tag on Bell. What would the point in this be? The Steelers can match any offer but there would be no compensation given to the Steelers if Bell signs with another team. So what is the point in that? Conner is way cheaper and has proven himself to be the back of the future. It might be time to just stop tagging Bell and let him hit free agency. This can't go on forever.
     
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  4. Smitch89

    Smitch89 Well-Known Member

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    U should use this determination to help cure a disease or something
     
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  5. WinTheNorth

    WinTheNorth Well-Known Member

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    Only advantage I could think of is they have some control over which team he goes to (that and we're get him for true market value)

    FWIW I disagree with @Clive From PIT on "reasonable interpretation " . I'm no lawyer... maybe Clive is but I could buy the argument that goes against the spirit of the CBA
     
  6. biggbunch68

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    Well hell, at this point im out of snide remarks to say on bell threads , :thumbs up:
     
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  7. jeh1856

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    My only thought would be in the outside chance no one offers him a ridiculous contract. Then we keep him and have a great backfield.
     
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  8. SDOT

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    I'm confused.. Not much of a difference if he plays these last few games or not. So if they use the non exclusive tag next year can the Steelers pick which option A,B, or C ?
     
  9. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT

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    Nope, it’s the greater of A, B or C.
     
  10. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT

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    While I really didn’t want to start yet another Bell Thread, there’s just been so much speculation and conflicting information put out. I wanted to collect all the possibilities, grounded in facts, and post it all in one place.

    Hope it helps.
     
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  11. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Steelers will let him walk as a ufa imo. Time to move forward with getting Ben a couple more SBs.
     
  12. groutbrook

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    "We want volunteers, not hostages".
     
  13. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    Now that is very hopeful. I'll be extremely happy if Ben could get 1 more and then tie Bradshaw with taking them to 4. It was a hell of a long time between Terry to Ben and once Ben retires I'll never make it if I have to wait that long for the next great Steeler QB.
     

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