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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steel_Elvis, Dec 23, 2013.

  1. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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  2. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    I was just reading about that, Elvis. This is a perfect example, for me anyway, of why Tomlin is a class act. Any time when he's asked about a bad call or bad officiating, he replies with something like, 'we had some calls go our way too' or 'we can only focus on what's in our control' or something similar.

    I'm in the same boat as you. This is not what I would be focusing on if I was involved in yesterday's game.

    http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/237069581.html
     
  3. ScottChab

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    The botched FG call has received plenty of coverage.
     
  4. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering why 10 seconds ran off the clock on the last play.

    These refs are very very bad these days.

    The Niners just got hosed in their game off a clean hit. Hit the reciever with his shoulder and was flagged for both roughing and unsportsman like conduct.

    Next play TD
     
  5. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    The refs were absolutely atrocious in our game yesterday.
     
  6. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    The ten second run off was by the book, as there was a false start. The Packers should be thankful that it happened at :20 and not :10 or it would have been game over. The miscommunication between the refs and the center is unfortunate, but that sort of thing happens very often at every level of football.
     
  7. SteelerGlenn

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    The ref blew the whistle and the clock started then the packers had to get set and snap the ball. Did they think they were going to get set then snap the ball on the refs whistle? That's not the way it works, sorry.
     
  8. ScottChab

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    There is a difference between not being set to snap the ball and being told that you aren't allowed to snap the ball... if that really happened.
     
  9. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I was talking about the final 10 seconds. Figured they had at least 2 plays they could have run.

    These games are being run by a bunch of Keystone Cops.
     
  10. Rush2seven

    Rush2seven Well-Known Member

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    I remember seeing the game clock go down, thinking Flynn was confusing the play clock with the game clock. Anyone have footage of the play?

    maybe Flynn didn't throw to Nelson because he didn't think he had time to make another read.

    They should probably take a draft pick away from the Steelers because of this.
     
  11. SteelerGlenn

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    Clock starts on the whistle not on the snap. Looked like the official walked up and said something to the center then backed out and blew the whistle then the line got set(which took several seconds) then Flynn gave the hut-hut- hike and that was it.
     
  12. Lizard72

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    Yeah, looking at the video, that's exactly what I saw. Looked like the back judge went in to tell them they were not allowed to be set on top of the ball before they blew the whistle. He backed out and the Ref was there over the ball. As soon as he walked out behind the defense he signaled to start the clock and blew the whistle. Just because it took them 7 seconds to settle into their stances is not the officials fault. They don't get the benefit of being totally set to snap when they start the clock again. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.
     
  13. Bleedsteel

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    As much as we like to gripe about Tomlin`s clock management(and rightfully so..)...
    We should also question the ref`s...
    I can`t count how many times I have seen seconds tick off the clock, after an incomplete pass, or teams ready to snap the ball, waiting on the ref to spot the ball, or tell them it`s ok to snap the ball (No, Guys, we are not waiting on a tv timeout, go ahead), etc...
    Yes, the refs suck.
    I happens league-wide, and, IMHO, it evens out...
    Therefore, I don`t complain about it...
    Yes, we get hosed, like the batted ball yesterday, but they miss calls in our favor, too... Like Gay knockin Campbell out of the game, with an illeagle hit to the face...
    It happens...
    It`s part of the game, and it sucks, but, again, I think over the course of the year, it evens out...
    Yeah, they never seem to call a personal foul on a defender hitting Ben, And they seem to let offenses hold our guys all the time, but for the most part...
    What comes around goes around...
    We get our share, and we don`t get our share.
    Can`t believe McCarthy really wants to be vocal about it, in this case...
    GO STEELERS!
     
  14. lersgofor7

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    i have nfl rewind...i just went back and re watched it...whatever they are claiming is bull crap... the ball was set...the ref left and the whistle blew...flynn was the one who was making his reads for at least 5 seconds...
     
  15. gpguy

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    Looking at the replay I agree with this also. Compared to other clock stopages (player going out of bounds or a incomplete pass) play cannot begin until the whistle blows. The article/etc makes it sound like the ref stayed there at the line the whistle blew THEN he backed out or something...the whistle was not blown until both officials were back and the players lined up. Then you can see the ref come up to Flynn and say something (maybe HEY the clock is running) or what I don't know...but there is nothing there showing an official stopped them from snapping it. The only thing I could think of is when the one official came in he told them they couldn't snap/etc until the whistle was blown...then backed out and then the whistle came.
     
  16. BobbyBiz

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    Yeah I'm not understanding the complaint here. On whose que does the center snap the ball, the ref or the QB? I don't get how the ref can prevent the C from snapping the ball.
     
  17. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    From what I've bee reading, it's basically a case of the Packers players saying they didn't know the rules in that situation, then the Packers fans moaning that the refs did something wrong. I have no sympathy with them at all. It's like a few years back when Grossman tried to call a timeout immediately after another, and his running back had to tell him to snap the ball. Players not knowing the rules, even though the refs had explained them.

    I said in the game thread Flynn was irritating me, appealing for flags at every opportunity. So it doesn't surprise me that he's kicking off about his mistake now.


    On a side note, I see that nobody is talking about the two crucial non-calls - the offensive pass interference by Jones on Allen, and the defensive pass interference on Brown that led to 3 and out, both in the 4th. Ok, Wallace got away with the penalty that Raji got called on, I'll give you that. But my point is more that there are lots of talking points about this game, and the Packers not knowing the damned rules isn't one of them.
     
  18. SteelerGlenn

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    I think the Packers thought the clock stopped on the penalty and restarted with the snap?
     
  19. SteelCity_NB

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    I definitely think the Packers did get screwed a little there. With 10 seconds, they should have been able to run 2 plays. That's what I was thinking when I watched the game. I was floored when I saw only 3 seconds left on the clock when they snapped it. Definitely a bit of shock.

    I have very little sympathy of course since the refs tried to completely screw us earlier.
     
  20. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    But it was Flynn that let it run to 3, not the refs.
     
  21. DSteelerCT

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    Why didn't they automatically run 10 seconds off with the false start penalty? Thought that automatic with under a minute to play, especially with no timeouts remaining.
     
  22. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    They did. There was 20 seconds left at the time of the penalty.
     

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