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Sean McDermott - Bills

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Chucktownsteeler, Jan 19, 2026 at 9:57 AM.

  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member

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    I watched it over and over and it really looked to me like Denver did not have possession until they had already rolled around on the ground. Up until that point, the Bills had it. So they kind of let the play continue after it was over and then ruled that it was ok......IMO
     
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  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Squib kick definitely eats up 3 seconds probably even more. Definitely a blunder by McDermott.
     
  3. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The Bills GM deserves a lot of blame you have a franchise QB but don't give him a WR1 or WR2.
     
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  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The Eagles paid their QB and both starting WRs, they were able to do it because their defense is young and many of them still on rookie contracts.
     
  5. S.T.D

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    A knee jerk reaction, and stupid. What will be their excuse, like the Ravens if they still never make the SB???.
    Yeah 4 turnover by Your Qb, and more by You RB, and it's the HCs fault. LoL.
    Damn You McDermott for coaching to turn over the ball. LoL
    I find the Legend of J. Allen, and O'Dell Beckham Jr. to be the same. Both got huge praise on something they did in a losing effort. OBJs catch in a loss, and J. Allen's td drive in a loss.
    I guess Caleb Williams is next. :shrug:
     
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  6. mcam

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    To his defense, I believe the refs pretty much took over their game. Bad interception call imo followed by two bad PIs. The play before the two calls probably looked more like PI to me.
     
  7. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I think the Bills and Ravens jobs are the most attractive they have veteran franchise QBs.
     
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  8. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    McDermott did call his own defense for a few years after he got rid of Leslie Frazier, their defense was never good enough in the playoffs.
     
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  9. S.T.D

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    It would be a hell of a lot better if their Qb didn't turn the ball over 4 times. LoL
    I know You are one of the Josh Allen is the greatest awesome most perfect player in the NFL guys, so I give You a break. LoL
     
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  10. mikeyg

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    the int was an INT - he did not catch the ball.

    Josh was sloppy.

    Mcdermott was on the hot seat

    COACHES that continually fall short need to be on the HOT SEAT.

    Tomlin should have been fired in 2017

    SOME owners care about winning (or at least AFC Championship games) Not ours.....
     
  11. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I disagree, they are the only two Jobs that just winning is not expected right away, but getting to the SB is, and that is a dangerous slope for any HC.
     
  12. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Wrong, Allen is a top 5 QB you hate him for some reason :rolleyes:. This is the first playoff game where he has been a turnover machine
     
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  13. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    McDermott to the Steelers and Tomlin to the Bills who says no :hehehe:
     
  14. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I don't hate anybody, and I pray to God I never have a reason to. What I don't do is fall into media hype, I watch , and judge by my own eyes. That's why I don't watch games with the sound on.
     
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  15. steelersrule6

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    The GM put this roster together yet he gets a promotion :rolleyes:.
     
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  16. steel machine

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    How good would Sean been without Allen? Could he have got 10 wins with the QB's Tomlin had last 5 years?
     
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  17. Hanratty#5

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    Every single ex player and every single analyst on TV said that it was a catch and not an interception. Still photos have shown Cooks on the ground with full possession and being contacted by the defender, the play was over at that point.
     
  18. NorthernBlitz

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    IIRC, Allen was cheap when they had Diggs. Wasn't that still on his rookie deal?

    Once you pay the QB massive money, they need to be able to elevate the pass catchers around them.

    Hurts had a cap hit of $13.5MM in 2024.

    AJ Brown's cap hit in 2024 was $11.9MM.

    Mahomes' cap hit was $37MM (after they restructured it to get it down from $58.6MM).

    So even after the restructure, the Eagles spent ~ $11.5MM less on their cap than the Chiefs did just for Mahomes.

    So while you thought you were arguing against my point, you actually provided evidence to support my argument! Actually, both your your examples (young Allen and Hurtz) both support my point.

    Note: This is also why I think it's a mistake to keep QBs that don't win when they are cheap. The most controversial version of this will probably be Herbert. The team went to the playoffs once (0-1) while on his rookie contract. You're kind of screwed as a team because you can't get rid of an above average QB (the most important / hardest thing to find in football). But if you can't win when you're using so little of the cap...it's unlikely you're going to win when you're really expensive. Trevor Lawrence is also in this category. Maybe these guys get it together and end up winning sometime. But I think it's not likely since they didn't really have much / any team success when they were on rookie deals.
     
  19. NorthernBlitz

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    By the current rules (which I think aren't good), it's not a catch because he never made a football move.

    https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/completing-a-catch/

    Show me the football move and I'll agree with you.

    I think the current rule is stupid because even ex-players don't understand it.

    But even if we go back to what I think is the best version of what a catch is (have to maintain possession through going to the ground), it's not a catch.

    He does not do (3) [bold and in red in the quote...but it got cut off]. He did not catch the ball.

    I'm pretty sure they made this rule change because of Jesse James (which is why "extend the ball forward") is in there. But I think the old rule was better because it was easier to understand. And closer to how people would play just throwing around with the boys.
     
  20. NorthernBlitz

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    Note that they didn't really "pay their QB" because they got him pretty cheap because he wasn't all that good on his rookie deal.


    His cap number in 2024 was $13.5MM (Link).

    This put him as the 16th highest cap hit in the NFL in 2024 (link).

    And just giving the rank isn't really good enough.

    From the 2nd link above, you can see that:
    • There are 3 guys above $44MM cap hit
    • Another 3 guys > $30MM
    • Another 5 guys at >= $25MM
    • Two guys ~ $20MM
    • Another two guys > $15MM
    • Then Hurts.
    So while 16th still sounds high, the top QB cap hit was 3.7x his cap hit.
     
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  21. NorthernBlitz

    NorthernBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like the Cowher and TD power struggle.

    Except the GM won instead of the HC.
     
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  22. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Hurts signed a 5 year 255 million dollar contract he got paid.
     
  23. NorthernBlitz

    NorthernBlitz Well-Known Member

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    I'm talking about cap hit and not salary.

    You can't have a big cap hit for both QBs and WRs.

    First year of a 2nd deal tends to have a low to very low cap hit because the salary is low (because they get a ton of cash in the way of SB). His cap hit in the 1st year of this deal was ~ $6mm.

    Philly has also really kicked a **** ton of cap hit down the road with void years. So years 2 and 3 are $13.5MM (won SB) and ~ $22MM (WC loss).

    His cap hit is schedulled to go up to $32MM next year (first real cap hit for an above average QB).

    Then $42MM

    Then $47.5MM.

    Then in the first void year, he's currently got ~ $100MM cap hit. I'm not sure what they can do to manage that. Kind of like how after we gave Ben that 2 year extension, there wasn't much we could do to push that cap hit down the road (although teams weren't really voiding too much then).

    I think they're in a "we need to win while Hurts in on this contract" mode. Because I don't think they can push dead money cap that's already been pushed into a void year after a restructure (i.e. you can only restructure cash, not prorated cap hits). So I think it's max 3 seasons until the Eagles have to blow their whole team up. We really tried to avoid being in this position with Ben...but maybe if we would have gone all in during the BBB years, we could have won another SB (if Bell and Brown could have stayed healthy for the playoffs).

    Now...we were talking about how the Bills shouldn't be spending big cap hits on WRs with Allen having a cap hit of $36.3MM (they no long really have the extended bonus of him being close to his rookie deal like the Eagles got for Hurts the first few years into his 2nd contract). This is 3x what Hurts' cap hit was in the year that's being used as an example here.

    That means the Bills have to be good at drafting WRs that the QB can elevate. That's something we did well with Ben (used lots of 2nd and 3rd round picks on WRs). Or finding cheap WRs in UFA (hard to do if they WR is any good IMO). The Bills can't afford to pay a big time WR1 like Chase ($40MM AAV, ~ $25MM cap hit). Unless they want to be like Cincy and just not have a defense.
     
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  24. NorthernBlitz

    NorthernBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Chucky to Bills for the SB win confirmed!
     
  25. NorthernBlitz

    NorthernBlitz Well-Known Member

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    This is a bit of a turn for this topic but...

    If the Bills wanted him, would Tomlin take this job?


    It's a prebuilt team with a franchise QB who is the most like Ben on the field that you can get.

    If he has a chance for this job, but doesn't take it I think I'll believe the idea that he's out like Cowher.

    Not sure there's going to be a better opportunity for an incomming coach than Buffalo. Even if you go to a place with a 1OA or 2OA pick, it's still just a coin flip for whether or not that QB is any good.
     

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