scheme or personnel DEF IS NOT LOOKING....

Re: Defense is mediocre at best!

Me and a buddy of mine were talking about this prior to the start of the season. We wondered how long it would be before Troy would be out on injury.

 

Yep every D player sucks...are busts...etc. For crying out loud.

 

Re: Defense is mediocre at best!

and who took the replacements and keep give them a shirt ?

 

Re: Defense is mediocre at best!

Punt on 3rd down? You're right, that might have won them the game.

 

Re: Defense is mediocre at best!

When you allow the 32nd ranked team in the NFL to put up 34 points on you. When you allow a team that had less than 70yds of rushing coming in to this game to take one to the house on you. When you are committing illegal contact, regardless if it's called or not, and still getting owned. Yes. You are mediocre at best. Now I can't wait for all of our "arm chair" analysts to start blasting away and making excuses. The fact, the FACT, is that we are not a good defense. Troy and James can not play corner on both sides of the field. Mundy and Lewis are not even worthy to start in Cleveland and they are starting for us. We have not taken a good defensive player in the draft since 07. I don't care how good we THOUGHT they were gonna be. The guys that we have taken on D have not played even up to mediocre. Go ahead and blast away. But if you think this is a good D compared to the D that we are used to then more power to you but you are smoking something.

 

Re: Defensive Line

It starts with the line. We have what...4 sacks this year? On pace for 21?

 

Re: Defensive Line

Agreed. If we're gonna suck let's do it with McClendon. We at least need to know what he is made of. Casey Hampton came back too quick. That utterly reTARDED play by Keisel is a killer. That led to 7. With our d as sucky as they are we can NOT afford to give up a SINGLE POINT! I also agree with another post about Heyward. He aint done diddly. Hood is worthless. I was thinking during the game that there used to be a guy on here whose quote was "ziggy hood gets owned nearly every play" and man I was thinking how true that is. As far as us talking about all the injuries we are dealing with I don't wanna hear it. They have no corners whatsoever and they are dealing with injuries too. Now lets all go and drink some of Tomlin's "the standard" kool-aid. This team needs more than platitudes.

 

Re: Postgame Defensive Complaint Thread

I don't know what game you guys are watching...But Casey is the best player on the Dline so far this year from where I am sitting.

HACK

 

Re: Postgame Defensive Complaint Thread

I agree....And Mclendon has been the 2nd. best IMO.....Time to get these 2 in a package together IMO...Scrap the Defensive playbook and put the best 11 on the field...

 

Re: Postgame Defensive Complaint Thread

Casey isn't penetrating. I've always liked him but I just don't think he's full healthy. I appreciate the heart but we need our VERY best out there as bad as we are.

 

Re: Defense is mediocre at best!

Yep. I was at that game today. daryl Washington is an absolute beast at ILB. And William Gay is actually playing pretty well.

 

Re: Postgame Defensive Complaint Thread

I felt like I was watching the Denver game all over again. Quick turnover from the D early in the game...then they sort of shut down. Here are some basic observations:

1. Foote so badly over ran that run by McFadden it was frustrating. Where was he going? Not having Farrior in there is hurting as much as anything else. Losing Spence and Sylvester for right now, doesn't help either cause you pretty much need to play Foote one way or another.

2. Ben's numbers are incredible and he is playing great. NO ONE can say he isn't an awesome QB. That being said, if we don't get a running game soon....good teams like the Eagles and Ravens will get to Ben and kill him.

3. The penalties really hurt today. That is not to say that they would have changed the outcome greatly, but the "non-hold" on Ike (our fastest DB) on a long TD run and the penalties on A. Brown's PR for a TD....they really hurt.

4. Special teams is below the line right now. I don't know what got our other guy fired, maybe this is still trying to be corrected, but right now the returns are really hurting us. You can't give the opponent the ball with only 48 yards to go in order to get points. Yeah, you might hold them to a FG, but with Oakland you are basically 1 first down from being in FG range. Not a large margin for error right there.

5. It frustrates me as a Steeler fan to see games like this. 2 fumble TOs in great field position? Only 1 sack? Bad special teams play.

6. Lastly, the D has to make 1 stop in a half of football. 1 stop, just 1 stop. That is what we needed. We never got it. Don't tell me it is about age either. I am thinking we may need to blow up the D with some UFA signings and a HIGH impact draft.

 

Re: Postgame Defensive Complaint Thread

First off I think our linebackers are too bulky and muscle bound. Cut some weight and gain some speed. They can't get to the QB quick enough, and they can't drop into coverage well enough. I did see Timmons make a nice shoe string tackle, but our LB's need more speed.

I think the biggest thing outside of no Troy and Harrison.... is we are seeing the difference between Larry Foote and James Farrior. We miss potsy

 

Re: Postgame Defensive Complaint Thread

We lose Hampton and we lose one of the best in the game, still today. He is "it" on that line and McClendon looks promising.

Casey is not the problem. Harrison and Troy being out are. We have always been D that has an above average cover, when troy is in, and we are getting constant pressure on the QB via JH, LW, and Troy. When some or all of those moving parts are removed we fall below the line, and become average.

Thank all that is holy we still have Casey and hope we can keep him in there going forward this year.

 

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Well s%@t sherlock...never thought I'd be pullin' for Tom Brady and bunch...but tonight...against Baltimore...Go Patriots.

 

Re: Postgame Defensive Complaint Thread

I think I'm in shock of this defense. I wouldn't know where to start. I know alot of guys think Harrison and polomulu would of made a difference but Harrison will not make a difference until he at least gets a few games under his belt. 43 will help but we are in for a long year.

 

I couldn't agree more. DL seems to stick to his "no big play" umbrella defense way too long. Rushing 3 OL and 2 linebackers doesn't get to the QB, and preventing the big play makes it too easy to throw the 6 - 10 yard passes in front of the secondary. Particularly without Troy, there are few blitzes that confuse anyone anymore. And the base D is not able to get to the QB - not sure the 3 - 4 is even designed to do this without the occasional blitz thrown in. I think DL is playing scared without his playmakers, and maybe he is justified - there is just not enough talent on D. Sad for a franchise whose identity has been their D.

 

Who out there is aging? 23-27 is not old. Foote is the oldest and hes playing better than the others. Its not players or talent, its coaching. Lamarr is 27, Timmons 26, and they are just...on the field.

 

Is Cortez Allen not a corner? He blitzed a few times I think in todays game...as has in the past. Clark has been in there and blitzed too I believe...I think Lewis has too. It must not be noticeable if its not Troy and you can see his hair and know its him or something, haha. But they are blitzing DBs...maybe not as much as before I dont know.

 

We have gone from a first class defense dynasty to what we have now and in only a few years. Their needs to be some house cleaning done and it needs to start now.

 

Until you can generate a pass rush and get pressure on the opposing QB
you will continue to see mediocre Qbs shred the PGH Steelers. I mentioned this way before preseason
Matter of fact I even put it as the most important question concercerning the Steelers Very sad performance
from the PGH STEELERS. How come Kiesel, Woodley, Hampon always gets free passes
when handling out critisism? Our playmakers are not producing,and our defensive schemes
are not working.

 

I couldn't agree more with that! I am so sick of people drinking the "we are ranked number 1" Kool-Aid. The true fans have known for years that this d is slipping. We that keep up with the team faithfully know very well the reason we were "number 1" last year was because of a WEAK schedule. These "rankings" do nothing but excite stupid poser fantasy football fanboys. I get mad when fantasy guys come up to me and say "what happened to that defense? they've done nothing this year" and I say "they've sucked for the past few years but because you don't watch them and just listen to some fantasy commentator you buy the number one myth." It's the same with qb rating as well. All it is is a marketing tool to sale tickets. "Come out and see the number 1 ranked D" or "Come out and see the highest rated passer in the league"! It's just ridiculous how they try to make a stat for everything. Where are your wins? That's the stat that counts.