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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by bettissb40, Sep 16, 2018.

  1. bettissb40

    bettissb40 Well-Known Member

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    When are going to teach them how to defend against the pass. This whole team is a mess today.
     
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  2. steelcurtainmrp

    steelcurtainmrp Well-Known Member

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    what else is new. Edmunds came in to guard TEs down the field and he was nowhere to be found
     
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  3. steel machine

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    Disgusting!! I don't complain when we have good coverage and get beat by a great reception but today I think I could have pulled down a few from our secondary.
     
  4. Lizard72

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    Hmm, stupid Carnell Lake! Sucks at developing secondary guys!
     
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  5. MojaveDesertPghFan

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    Hey what are you complaining about, we had a safety today? Even it was for only one play. :facepalm:
     
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  6. bleednblackngold

    bleednblackngold Well-Known Member

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    As soon as we teach Colbert how to stop wasting picks on the ones who can't play in this league.
     
  7. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    yea but we have to use the safeties to cover the TE's. i saw bostic and vince foote chasing him. thats butler.:cool:
     
  8. Formerscribe

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    He was easy to find missing two tackles on the Chiefs' third touchdown drive, including the touchdown.
     
  9. steelcurtainmrp

    steelcurtainmrp Well-Known Member

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    he just looked so lost. Very frustrating.
     
  10. thesteeldeal

    thesteeldeal Well-Known Member

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    ......under Tomlins watch.....what exactly is Tomlins responsibilty anyway?
     
  11. Diamond

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    Looking cool on the sideline wearing his shades and pretending he knows whats going on..........
     
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  12. thesteeldeal

    thesteeldeal Well-Known Member

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    Well at least he has that part nailed down...
     
  13. Wardismvp

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    Why can't the Steelers make a trade with Seattle Le'von Bell for Earl Thomas. This
    would improve our secondary dramatically.
     
  14. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    he will just be coached to play out of position. these players are not smart enough on their own to think a TE running down the middle of the field uncovered time and time again isnt a problem. or is it the coach isnt smart enough to say hey guys we need to cover the big guy running down the field all alone play after play.


    KB: earl dont cover a big TE running down the seam all day.

    Earl: but coach that doesnt sound right.

    KB: earl isnt ready to play in my system yet.

    :cool:
     
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  15. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I am frustrated as well.
     
  16. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

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    Bradley is gonna fix that
     
  17. bigbenhotness

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    Can we just reserve 3 late first round draft picks for 1 top pick lol
     
  18. AskQuestionsLater

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    :rolleyes:


    If the two safeties are truly the biggest concern then I suppose the remaining aspects of the defense should be forgiven right?
     
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  19. Daddymac10

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    When are the Steeler players gonna be taught how to tackle??
     
  20. mcam

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    The issue is clearly lack of communication in the secondary not the quality of players. Colbert has drafted for athletic abilities.

    Here is an interesting comparison of Artie Burns to other CBs picked in the 2016 draft
    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.c...in-the-2016-draft-class-jalen-ramsey-steelers

    He was a projected 1st or 2nd round pick.
    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/artie-burns?id=2555344


    Sean Davis
    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/sean-davis?id=2555386


    Cam Sutton
    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/cameron-sutton?id=2557902


    I don't blame the picks. The issue is clearly in my mind the defensive coaching. These guys are not acting as a unit.

    I'm sure if Jalen Ramsey was available they would have taken him. He was a top 5 pick however.
     
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  21. bigbenhotness

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    this defense has a potential to be a average to good defense. Average defense is all we need! Offense has to stop being stupid, defense needs to be average and special teams need to do their jobs. They can turn it around just not sure the distractions will let them this year, or next, or even in 2030 when Tomlin is awarded an Oscar for most believable BS after falling 4-12 the 3rd straight year.
     
  22. groutbrook

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    In the first play I see Sutton pushing Watkins to the outside where Davis can't get him help, and Davis hesitates for a beat, which is more than he can make up for.
    Second play Williams lets Kelce run right around him, he doesn't even get a hand on Kelce. Sutton and Bostic react too slow. I think it's a combination of both scheme and players. It's bad all over.
     
  23. Clive From PIT

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    And did you see unmolested and wide-open:
    1. the RB was on the Watkins play?
    2. THill was on the Kelce TD?!
     
  24. Kreighoff

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    After reading the draft analysis it seems most are raw or projects or positional tweeners although most have athleticism .

    This could work out perfectly with good positional coaching but it seems obvious we don't have any on the defensive side.

    There were times when Davis was starting as a rookie that I though wow this guy can flat out play, now he looks lost and confused.

    Sadly too many of our top draft picks appear to regress the longer they are being coached by our defensive coaches.

    Bud the dud has the physical tools but still hasn't developed any more pass rush moves then what he had when he came into the league.

    I am old enough to remember a few bad defenses but that was a lack of talent not a defense that looks to be 11 individuals totally out of sync with each other. To give up a 14 pt lead to the Browns then get shredded by Mahomes in what his second or third career start.

    Against KC the defense looked as if it was their first practice together EVER.
     
  25. turtle

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